had to deal with it this weekend actually a good friends son took his own life and left us all wondering why. A very selfish mean thing to do to your loved ones leaving them wondering what 'they ' did wrong.
had to deal with it this weekend actually a good friends son took his own life and left us all wondering why. A very selfish mean thing to do to your loved ones leaving them wondering what 'they ' did wrong.
Maybe it is selfish to think its all about everyone else, Maybe the person was in such distress that they thought they were making things better. Maybe I should not even go down this road cause not even a pair of titties will keep it from getting ugly.
Like I said earlier, I'm glad I never will have to understand it, but...
I'm pretty sure the only feelings a person about to commit suicide is considering are their own. They may try to blame other factors or people or what have you, but they are considering their own feelings. If others' were considered, they would understand that suicide is not really a choise others would have you choose.
I don't know. In the wise words of the much more verbose Dennis Miller, "That's just my opinion. I could be wrong."
Maybe it is selfish to think its all about everyone else, Maybe the person was in such distress that they thought they were making things better. Maybe I should not even go down this road cause not even a pair of titties will keep it from getting ugly.
yeah, but what about 3 pairs of titties, a guy named Bobaloo, a hot tub, some baby oil, a video and still camera, two tripods, two more pairs of titties, a water bed, and some coffee?
Like I said earlier, I'm glad I never will have to understand it, but...
I'm pretty sure the only feelings a person about to commit suicide is considering are their own. They may try to blame other factors or people or what have you, but they are considering their own feelings. If others' were considered, they would understand that suicide is not really a choise others would have you choose.
I don't know. In the wise words of the much more verbose Dennis Miller, "That's just my opinion. I could be wrong."
Well I tried killing myself a few times didn't work than I made a serious attempt and it was "in my mind at the time" I completely unselfish act, I was doing it for my son "or so I thought at the time" it was a phone call from a worried friend and a call to 911 and a night of drinking charcoal in the ER that saved my life, and with lots of help I see things a whole lot differently now but when someone has a mental illness they do not think logically like a person not in that situation.
Sure some people kill themselves for selfish reasons such as pay back to a ex lover or murder suicides and what have you, but I would venture to say this is not the norm, and when you are in that situation contiplating life or death and stuff usually you are thinking of those around you and you are convinced of how much better there life will be after they mourn your death,.
Just the opinion from someone that has been there and spent many of years to get myself on a better path.
yeah, but what about 3 pairs of titties, a guy named Bobaloo, a hot tub, some baby oil, a video and still camera, two tripods, two more pairs of titties, a water bed, and some coffee?
well, you get the idea. there's not enough smiley in the world to express the amount of pleasure it would bring me to be in the company of you, Nat, and Wigglez
Well I tried killing myself a few times didn't work than I made a serious attempt and it was "in my mind at the time" I completely unselfish act, I was doing it for my son "or so I thought at the time" it was a phone call from a worried friend and a call to 911 and a night of drinking charcoal in the ER that saved my life, and with lots of help I see things a whole lot differently now but when someone has a mental illness they do not think logically like a person not in that situation.
Sure some people kill themselves for selfish reasons such as pay back to a ex lover or murder suicides and what have you, but I would venture to say this is not the norm, and when you are in that situation contiplating life or death and stuff usually you are thinking of those around you and you are convinced of how much better there life will be after they mourn your death,.
Just the opinion from someone that has been there and spent many of years to get myself on a better path.
I didn't say that the person contemplating suicide is a selfish person; I mean that the act itself is selfish, whether the victim knows it's selfish or not. Selfish people (like kids who won't share) don't know they're being selfish. Or maybe it's really more inconsideration.
Interjection: Ironically there's a commercial advertising the overnight walk which is meant to spread suicide awareness and prevention.
Anyway... Obviously there's something else going through a person's mind other than rational thought. While it may have seemed selfless at the time, now that you've gotten help and are able to think back on the time, don't you see how had you committed the act how it may have been on the selfish side. Would your son have been better off??? HELL NO!!! It was probably hard f-ing work to get help and get back on tract, but think of how much better things are that you're here in your loved ones' lives that had you succeeded.
then again, I could be talking out my ass. I am fortunate enough not to have had any close encounters with someone contemplating suicide. But I tried to think it through logically for this post and I think I at the very least make a little bit of sense.
I didn't say that the person contemplating suicide is a selfish person; I mean that the act itself is selfish, whether the victim knows it's selfish or not. Selfish people (like kids to who share) don't know they're being selfish. Or maybe it's really more inconsideration.
Interjection: Ironically there's a commercial advertising the overnight walk which is meant to spread suicide awareness and prevention.
Anyway... Obviously there's something else going through a person's mind other than rational thought. While it may have seemed selfless at the time, now that you've gotten help and are able to think back on the time, don't you see how had you committed the act how it may have been on the selfish side. Would your son have been better off??? HELL NO!!! It was probably hard f-ing work to get help and get back on tract, but think of how much better things are that you're here in your loved ones' lives that had you succeeded.
then again, I could be talking out my ass. I am fortunate enough not to have had any close encounters with someone contemplating suicide. But I tried to think it through logically for this post and I think I at the very least make a little bit of sense.
At the time I think he would have been better even now thinking logically, the situation I was in, the life he would have had when my parents adopted him would have been a really good life. He was very young so he would not have remembered me he would have the always there question though. For that I don't know how much that would have effected his life. B ut I know he would have been provided with a very loving home.
As far as myself besides my children I only have one stong rock in my life. Everyone else I don't think would have there life changed if I were gone, I mean I know some people would be sad but would be fine moving on, my step mom would take it the hardest after the kids but I would not get to that point now anyway.
Regardless I hate hearing about what a selfish thing it is because it is a very complex situation most of the time.. I always here how selfesh the person was how they wanted the easy way out of life how they were so weak and this and that and it really is not that black and white and to really understand I think you would have to have been that deep into that darkness and got out of it. I mean really in it not the times every now and than or as a teen when you were grounded or something. But when you were seriously contiplating ending yourown life.
But yes I can see for the most part what you are getting at. Many things in life are selfish for the most part most humans are selfish people by nature.
I didn't say that the person contemplating suicide is a selfish person; I mean that the act itself is selfish, whether the victim knows it's selfish or not. Selfish people (like kids to who share) don't know they're being selfish. Or maybe it's really more inconsideration.
Interjection: Ironically there's a commercial advertising the overnight walk which is meant to spread suicide awareness and prevention.
Anyway... Obviously there's something else going through a person's mind other than rational thought. While it may have seemed selfless at the time, now that you've gotten help and are able to think back on the time, don't you see how had you committed the act how it may have been on the selfish side. Would your son have been better off??? HELL NO!!! It was probably hard f-ing work to get help and get back on tract, but think of how much better things are that you're here in your loved ones' lives that had you succeeded.
then again, I could be talking out my ass. I am fortunate enough not to have had any close encounters with someone contemplating suicide. But I tried to think it through logically for this post and I think I at the very least make a little bit of sense.
At the time I think he would have been better even now thinking logically, the situation I was in, the life he would have had when my parents adopted him would have been a really good life. He was very young so he would not have remembered me he would have the always there question though. For that I don't know how much that would have effected his life. B ut I know he would have been provided with a very loving home.
As far as myself besides my children I only have one stong rock in my life. Everyone else I don't think would have there life changed if I were gone, I mean I know some people would be sad but would be fine moving on, my step mom would take it the hardest after the kids but I would not get to that point now anyway.
Regardless I hate hearing about what a selfish thing it is because it is a very complex situation most of the time.. I always here how selfesh the person was how they wanted the easy way out of life how they were so weak and this and that and it really is not that black and white and to really understand I think you would have to have been that deep into that darkness and got out of it. I mean really in it not the times every now and than or as a teen when you were grounded or something. But when you were seriously contiplating ending yourown life.
But yes I can see for the most part what you are getting at. Many things in life are selfish for the most part most humans are selfish people by nature.
I can say that "at the time" isn't the only time. No matter what was going on in your life at the time, there is a future ahead of that time. you probably couldn't think it all through then, but look at the changes you've made and how you have the awesome opportunity to be a positive influence in people's lives, whehter ou sons, other family members', or just other people you run across. Oftentimes you may not even realize you're being a postive influence. Your son may have been too young at the time, but you knew he'd grow up wondering. Then the rest of his life he would have had to wonder if his being born was a factor. And that probalby isn't the case, but he would still have to wonder that.
And, yes, humans are selfish. The fact remains that I could never know or understand what was going thorugh your mind at the time. I know no one will ever understand what your professor's hardships were. Everyone has their own hell. For me to say that yours or anyone else's hell is any better or worse than mine simply is not possible. But on the same token, a person who commits suicide has not properly evaluted the repurcussions of their actions on all concerned at all times down the road.
It goes without saying that I'm glad you had the strength and support to work through your problems. I applaud you for overcoming your struggle
Besides, just think how horrible it would be if you never got to meet me.
****Okay. I keep getting phone calls and getting distracted... So I'm just going to send this without proofreading... i hope it makes sense.
I can say that "at the time" isn't the only time. No matter what was going on in your life at the time, there is a future ahead of that time. you probably couldn't think it all through then, but look at the changes you've made and how you have the awesome opportunity to be a positive influence in people's lives, whehter ou sons, other family members', or just other people you run across. Oftentimes you may not even realize you're being a postive influence. Your son may have been too young at the time, but you knew he'd grow up wondering. Then the rest of his life he would have had to wonder if his being born was a factor. And that probalby isn't the case, but he would still have to wonder that.
And, yes, humans are selfish. The fact remains that I could never know or understand what was going thorugh your mind at the time. I know no one will ever understand what your professor's hardships were. Everyone has their own hell. For me to say that yours or anyone else's hell is any better or worse than mine simply is not possible. But on the same token, a person who commits suicide has not properly evaluted the repurcussions of their actions on all concerned at all times down the road.
It goes without saying that I'm glad you had the strength and support to work through your problems. I applaud you for overcoming your struggle
Besides, just think how horrible it would be if you never got to meet me.
****Okay. I keep getting phone calls and getting distracted... So I'm just going to send this without proofreading... i hope it makes sense.
Thanks BOO, I see life in a whole new light than I ever saw it before and I am 99.9999% sure that I would never consider that path again, at least not as long as medication is around HAHA J/K sortof.
Anyway I been crying enough about my teacher **yes I cry you morons ** so I will step out of the deep thoughts for now.
Meeting you was well worth drinking the charcoal!!!
Looks like less and less room for you. You can be the towel boy. Hubby can take pix! And topless is a rule ladies so Diane drink up if you need the confidence boost or motivation or whatever you wanna call it.
Looks like less and less room for you. You can be the towel boy. Hubby can take pix! And topless is a rule ladies so Diane drink up if you need the confidence boost or motivation or whatever you wanna call it.
well, you get the idea. there's not enough smiley in the world to express the amount of pleasure it would bring me to be in the company of you, Nat, and Wigglez
** so I will step out of the deep thoughts for now.
