Oh trust me, I don't care if people get mad. It's all the bullshit you gotta deal with afterwards. If you havent yet noticed there are always little cliques(sp?) and if you piss one person off all their little cronies wanna bitch about it too. I just don't have time for that shit but since you got me started (LOL) I will start by saying that anyone that is unhappy needs to start by blaming themselves. Everyone wants to sit around and bitch about what the other person doesnt do for them or what the other person did wrong but who's the fool thats taking it? No one makes you happy but YOU. If you want to be happy then make yourself happy. Also, there's gotta be a reason your other half got tired of you. No ones perfect. Clean up your side of the street and then see where the relationships at. If he doesnt want to clean up his AFTER you've done yours then go make yourself happy somewhere else. Switching the tone a little bit to the original topic on this thread, how the hell is anyone gonna bitch about the jealous husbands? Maybe it isnt jealousy. Maybe it's about whats right and wrong. Unless this was a part of their relationship when they met, this isnt what they said "i do" to. I'm not a jealous person but if my fiance was talking to other bitches online the way some these married women talk to other men here I'd be fucking pissed. We are in a commited relationship and he doesnt need to be engaging in any kind of relationship (other than friends) with another women. No matter what i'm doing wrong. If his reason is cause he isnt happy with me then he needs to leave me, NOT cheat on me. Whether its online or not its cheating. He would be going outside our relationship. I think it's bullshit to justify it and say "well my husband isnt doing this right and im not happy" Then leave his ass and do whatever the fuck you want but if you arent going to leave then you should honor your marraige vows.

I'll step down off my soap box now and wait for some replies

haha, so am I gonna get blame or credit for gettin you started? I will stand 100% by what I see as the main point of your statement (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) that you are responsible for your own individual happiness. I'm a big believer ni this as you cannot really look outside yourself and depend on others to make you feel a certain way. but I too will now stand aside and see how people react, lol

No correction needed. That was one of my main points. The other was "respect your marriage"

I love it when you do that



Here, Here!

I really drink to much when I travel....

Then again when I'm not home I can!

Well from the mans point of view doll , Im a busy person and have gotton very busy as of late , we are looking and buying as much land as we can aquire , I spend all day traveling and looking at land and then come home at night and look at sales and real estate ads at night , and all of the suddent eh other night my wife walks in in a little skimpy nighty and says , SO you coming to bed early tonight ? I didnt even look away from my computer screen and said Ill be up in a few , well the few turned into 2 hours , By the time I got up there she was sound asleep in a flannel PJ 's , In My case I cant apologize enough to her for it , she doesnt understand the importance of this land aquisition is to my farming operation . But like us all she has needs , so I made a date with her , we went out for a nice meal I bought her a carrot diamond Necklace , and then we went to a movie , the only problem is by the time we got back home we were both so tired we didnt feel like sex , So we just fell asleep cuddling , which we had not done in yrs , But come morning I snuck in the shower with her and made up for some of the past .. I know there will be those that say never put work ahead of marriage and I dont what im doing is securing a future for my Son and Daughter cause to survive in this line of work it takes Acres to make the kind of money in which you can live confortable thus when a investoer came along and said he had XX Millions to spend I jumped on board .. Does that make not satifying my wife Okay hell NO , but in the end we will all be even more better off then we are now and my kids will be able to come back from college get married and not have to much to worry about .. But in the mean time I have to spend more time satisfying the lady of my life ... But for sure Im not sick of her , as Im sure your hubby isnt Chickie , its just sometimes we fall in arut and it takes a tit up side the head to change us ..

Obviously this was directed at me.

Not sure why I am being attacked for a simple little post about real life, real marriage issues, and by the sound of the responses from those that could actually relate, thanks.

I have been with the same man for 20 years, and believe me, we went through that stage of "don't look or talk to anyone else, we are enough for each other". After a while that suffocating type of relationship ends and you go to the next step.

"some of these married women" need a little fun, too.

Damor, Trickster and ddd35...thanks for your insights they were very helpful.

I think I am done with this thread, though.

To Chickie and Kiana..

I think age has to play an issue in both of your opinions. I mean, Kiana, you are young and it's easy to satisfy your needs/change things up when things are still new.

I'm sure after so many years, things get comfortable. There's security in the relationship that Chickie has in that although things may not be 100% she has someone to go home to and has a life that's working for her in other aspects.

I think this is all similar to someone's career. "Do what makes you happy," well what if that won't pay the bills? You sacrifice. It's you're decission though when that sacrifice is too much... If you're life is shit, you have the power to change that. It's just whether or not you can stand or if it is even worth it to break out of your comfort zone.

It's also easier for someone like me to go out and find a new job to be happy with being younger and not into much of a career yet.

My mother on the other hand works a job that she's not completely happy with in order to pay the bills. She chooses to do so because she gets excellent benefits and her retirement is invested within this company that she works with..

Anyways, I hope that makes sense... then again, I'm probably too young to know anything.

It more than made sense, it is exactly what I was talking about.

I have no intention of saying, "I'm unhappy with 1 aspect of our relationship at the moment, bye", because when you are married, you need to compromise and be flexible. I was looking for other peoples point of view on improving the situation, or even what happens when it goes very bad...because the relationship was once phenomenal in all respects.

Baby, that meant a lot, lot, lot...thanks.

Whats your poison of choice brother?

p.s this thread is DEEP

Chickie, I love you girl!

Have the two of you tried going on a vacation? Like a real vacation just to focus on each other's needs... if you haven't and are planning on it, you can take me!!

Chickie, i wasnt attacking you. That was my personal opinion. My emotion on this topic is more directed at that fact that people get mad that husbands and boyfriends for not wanting their wives/girlfriends to post nude pics of themselves and talk to men online. In my opinion that husband/boyfriend has every right to get mad. If that bothers the wife then there's a problem if she continues to still do it. Marriage is about compromise and if your (proverbial your) husband doesnt like that you chat with men and post nude pics then you shouldnt do it. If you do then where's the trying for your marriage? You werent the only one that was like I do it cause my husband doesnt do enough of whatever. I dont care how long people have been married. They should do things to help their marriage and eachother and by doing things purposefully that the other doesnt like then you are doing something to harm your marriage and hurt the other person. I dont think thats right

Baby, I love YOU girl!!!

Well, we are going away in January...we'll see what happens, lol.

But, I'd LOVE to take you! We are still planning on that trip to Vegas someday, right???

Ok. Well, I guess you just touched a nerve. Although my hubby does not mind at all about the naked pics he does get mad if I spend too much time here. I have reduced my time on here a lot...friggin addictive place, this is.

I do see what you are saying in theory. It makes perfect sense, always do for each other, always be there for each other, always love each other. I love him, but sometimes I want to push him off of a cliff, I do a lot for him, but sometimes I do things that I know will piss him off, just because I feel like it...right now, you are thinking, "fuck, what a bitch, why doesn't she divorce him" Ambivilence is the opposite of love, not hate. Sometimes I do shit to get a rise out of him. If I didn't care, I'd go...but I do care, that's why I ask people who aren't involved in my actual life for their opinion. I guess I wasn't interested in hearing that I might be wrong...

And, I agree...if your spouse or whatever really hates you being on here, then perhaps you shouldn't be...but that smothering jealousy is a bitch and can end up backfiring. (that is just my opinion)

Well your very welcome

I agree about the smothering jealousy and thats not the kind of jealousy I was talking about. And girl, I am definitely not thinking "fuck, what a bitch" I understand what you are saying. I did those same things to my ex. I intentionally pissed him off a lot. I finally left because where you still love your husband and you still care, I didnt anymore. It was time for me to go. Staying wouldve have been the wrong thing for both of us but while I was still there I always kept up with my side of the relationship even when I didn't want to. Thats something that I believe both partners owe eachother as long as they are together.

I hope you guys have a great time on your trip. I hope it can start things back on the right track.

Beer on the day I want to drink all day and I’m out riding. I do love a good vodka tonic (Stoli). I figure tonic has to have water in it so I can stay hydrated while I'm getting drunk then the hangovers shouldn't be as bad.

On the day I want to sit around and relax a good bourbon or scotch (single malt) on the rocks!

You are right DEEP! That’s why I need to have a few before I start thinking. It doesn’t hurt as much then!!!

If I knew how to quote everyone and it wouldn't take up 20 pages I would.

Keep in mind I haven't been drinking YET either.

Everyone has different circumstances in their life and we are all at different stages in our lives also. I wish everyone the best of luck in the relationship that they are in and by reading the previous post it might educate you in your current relationship or your future one.

Now let's all get together and fuck like rock stars!

Yes yes yes!! As soon as I get my fake ID

Where are you guys going??