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▫ Apr 10 2006, 16:33 Post #81
QUOTE(rackman)
I've never studied Puritan history, so I didn't know that the Puritans were still an influential group by the time the Republican party was founded (around 1860's?).  I also, of course, didn't know that the Puritans were "directy responsible" for founding the Republican party.  I'll have to do some reading on this out of curiosity.
Sometimes you have to keep in mind that the phrase "separation of church and state" appears nowhere in the Constitution.  Also, know that the majority of the the framers of the Constitution were deeply religious people.  Even the Declaration attributes our "inalienable rights" to a "Creator" (note that Jefferson was a Deist).

Although I am in no way an advocate of combining church and government, I think it's important to know the true history of the founding of the United States.  Despite the fact that so many of the Founding Fathers were devout Christians, they crafted a Constitution that granted individual freedoms that were nearly unheard of at the time.  The most glaring evidence of their religious tolerance was that the First Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibing the free exercise thereof..."

If the Founding Fathers were all a bunch of oppressive Puritans, why did they design the government to allow citizens absolute religious freedom?

To go back to one of my earlier posts, it's the "majority rule" and "public good" concepts that have steadily eroded our individual freedoms, NOT the religious roots of the founding of the United States.

Are we still talking about topless sunbathing?  ;)

Actually, I believe that th whole reason for the separation of chusrch and state was tp protect the politicians from ever being challanged by organized religion such as we now see in the middle east. There it's common place to see religious parties in power. It's just a way the good-ol-boys had on securing their power base against what could be their only threat to power.
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▫ Apr 10 2006, 16:56 Post #82
I have gotten into the Seperation debate many times and from my understanding it was set up to protect religions.But as stated it is NOT in the constituion, you can find some very interesting stuff when researching the topic at hand though.
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▫ Apr 10 2006, 18:42 Post #83
God this has to be the heaviest thread yet!
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▫ Apr 10 2006, 19:13 Post #84
QUOTE(natalie)
God this has to be the heaviest thread yet!

I think we need a shot of boobs on a beach to lighten things up a bit and turn this thread around :2thumbsup:
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▫ Apr 10 2006, 19:57 Post #85
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I think we need a shot of boobs on a beach to lighten things up a bit and turn this thread around  :2thumbsup:

OK
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▫ Apr 10 2006, 20:13 Post #86
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OK

Ask and you shall receive!!!

Thanks Lynette. Very sexy. I love that the old guy in the pic can't seem to stop staring at you. But who could blame him for staring at a girl like you. besides, he's probably a lonely priest anyway.
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▫ Apr 10 2006, 20:57 Post #87
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I have gotten into the Seperation debate many times and from my understanding it was set up to protect religions.But as stated it is NOT in the constituion, you can find some very interesting stuff when researching the topic at hand though.


"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. "

The way it is written is vague and open to interpretation. Just because something isn't said literally, doesn't mean that you cannot reasonably infer that they are implying a separation of church and state. For that matter, I don't think anyone here has even defined what they themselves think church/state separation means.
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▫ Apr 10 2006, 21:06 Post #88
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. "

The way it is written is vague and open to interpretation.  Just because something isn't said literally, doesn't mean that you cannot reasonably infer that they are implying a separation of church and state.  For that matter, I don't think anyone here has even defined what they themselves think church/state separation means.

Oh man!!! We had boobs in here and now we get more paragraphs.

Anyone up for posting more boobs on the beach??? Apparantly Lynette just isn't enough to deter isaac . Can't imagine how that's possible :unsure: She could stop me in my tracks with that body anytime.
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▫ Apr 10 2006, 21:20 Post #89
QUOTE(Bobaloo)
Oh man!!!  We had boobs in here and now we get more paragraphs. 

Anyone up for posting more boobs on the beach???  Apparantly Lynette just isn't enough to deter isaac .  Can't imagine how that's possible :unsure:   She could stop me in my tracks with that body anytime.

OH MAN THIS IS HILLARIOUS AND I CAN NOT EVEN SAY WHY. Issac will know :nahnah:
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▫ Apr 10 2006, 22:09 Post #90
QUOTE(Bobaloo)
Ask and you shall receive!!!

Thanks Lynette.  Very sexy.  I love that the old guy in the pic can't seem to stop staring at you.  But who could blame him for staring at a girl like you.  besides, he's probably a lonely priest anyway.


I think it's Bill Clinton :blink:
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▫ Apr 10 2006, 22:39 Post #91
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OH MAN THIS IS HILLARIOUS AND I CAN NOT EVEN SAY WHY. Issac will know :nahnah:

Now I'm intrigued. I posted something hilarious for once and I dont' even know what the hell I said that was so funny :unsure:
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▫ Apr 10 2006, 22:40 Post #92
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I think it's Bill Clinton  :blink:

You're good! i didn't even catch that.
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▫ Apr 10 2006, 23:12 Post #93
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Now I'm intrigued.  I posted something hilarious for once and I dont' even know what the hell I said that was so funny :unsure:
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▫ Apr 11 2006, 00:47 Post #94
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I am no match for your gifs
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▫ Apr 11 2006, 02:18 Post #95
Not a topless beach.
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▫ Apr 11 2006, 02:45 Post #96
Besides the one that I called out are all these other pics you post you Lynett?? There has been a few that dont look like you like the one in here and a few others so I was wondering if they were siblings as well.
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▫ Apr 11 2006, 13:25 Post #97
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Besides the one that I called out are all these other pics you post you Lynett?? There has been a few that dont look like you like the one in here and a few others so I was wondering if they were siblings as well.


We were wondering the same thing :unsure:
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▫ Apr 11 2006, 16:17 Post #98
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We were wondering the same thing :unsure:

Hot woman none the less but I am anal about knowing these things :nahnah:
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▫ Apr 11 2006, 16:18 Post #99
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Besides the one that I called out are all these other pics you post you Lynett?? There has been a few that dont look like you like the one in here and a few others so I was wondering if they were siblings as well.

No, there all me. Just keep in mind that I probably have 20MG's (over 5,000 pics) worth of pictures accumulated over the past ten years or so. My modeling portfolio is at least 4" thick, but I try to keep those to a minimum as far as any pics I might post on sites like this. You'll notice (in the pictures) that at different times in my life (as with most women) I tend to gain and lose weight from time to time. I DO try not to let it get out of control though. I'm the one out of three sisters that has a little more problem with my weight. Guess I REALLY like good food a little too much. But, let me assure you that the pics I post here ARE me. The only reason I posted the one of Jodi was because se happened to be here visiting and I showed here this site and asked her to send me one of her to post. Actually, I DARED here. LOL!!!
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▫ Apr 11 2006, 16:21 Post #100
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No, there all me. Just keep in mind that I probably have 20MG's (over 5,000 pics) worth of pictures accumulated over the past ten years or so. My modeling portfolio is at least 4" thick, but I try to keep those to a minimum as far as any pics I might post on sites like this. You'll notice (in the pictures) that at different times in my life (as with most women) I tend to gain and lose weight from time to time. I DO try not to let it get out of control though. I'm the one out of three sisters that has a little more problem with my weight. Guess I REALLY like good food a little too much. But, let me assure you that the pics I post here ARE me. The only reason I posted the one of Jodi was because se happened to be here visiting and I showed here this site and asked her to send me one of her to post. Actually, I DARED here. LOL!!!

5,000 pics, eh? Sounds like someone should be doing more posting in the artsy pics thread :2thumbsup:

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