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▫ Feb 23 2007, 20:42 Post #481
QUOTE(bondiguy)
:bang:

That was one rant, but they are also there to help people geniunely in trouble. In your rant you reasoned that those partaking in dangerous activities such as mountain climbing etc to not need saving from dangerous conditions that they put themselves in.

Now even though a beach is patrolled and safe to swim at, the element of danger is always there because of the unpredictability of nature. Your reasoning was that if there was a shark in the waters I shouldn't warrant help in getting ashore safely because it is my fault im out there in the first place.

Do I need to dumb it down a shade?


nope your dumb enough already .. :haha:
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 20:53 Post #482
QUOTE(ddd35)
nope your dumb enough already  ..  :haha:


Yeah good one :blink:

You were the simpleton I had to re-explain it too :fuckoff:
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 21:03 Post #483
QUOTE(bondiguy)
Yeah good one :blink:

You were the simpleton I had to re-explain it too :fuckoff:


and besides my rant was if they want to do it dont solicit corporation like the ones im affilitated with to pay the bill for rescue efforts . if the state or whoever pays the lifeguards want to do it so be it , but leave the corporations alone , someday when you run your own business you will more then understand the rant , its tough when you draw a paycheck from someone to understand . . I dont mean this as a put down , its just way different on my side then your side . its a free world in most places and evryone can do what they wish , just dont expect the money people to fit the bill to clean up the mess , unless they create it .
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 21:17 Post #484
QUOTE(ddd35)
and besides my rant was  if they want to do it dont solicit  corporation like the ones im affilitated  with to pay the bill for rescue efforts . if the state or whoever pays the lifeguards want to  do it so be it , but leave the corporations alone  , someday when you run your own business you will more then understand the rant , its tough when you draw a paycheck from someone to understand  . . I dont mean this as a put down , its just way different  on my side then your side  .  its a free world in most places  and evryone can do what they wish , just dont expect the money people to fit the bill  to clean up the mess , unless they create it  .


I sure hope that one day disaster never strikes your life because if anyone knew the type of person you are you'd have no one there to lend a helping hand.

You fucking scrooge
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 21:23 Post #485
QUOTE(ddd35)
and besides my rant was  if they want to do it dont solicit  corporation like the ones im affilitated  with to pay the bill for rescue efforts . if the state or whoever pays the lifeguards want to  do it so be it , but leave the corporations alone  , someday when you run your own business you will more then understand the rant , its tough when you draw a paycheck from someone to understand  . . I dont mean this as a put down , its just way different  on my side then your side  .  its a free world in most places  and evryone can do what they wish , just dont expect the money people to fit the bill  to clean up the mess , unless they create it  .


I don't want to beat a dead horse, but that still doesn't make sense. If you don't like being solicited in general by anyone, I can understand that. But your rant didn't really say that. A business doesn't HAVE to donate money to a non-profit group, it's voluntary. It's also a tax write off. Plus, a company usually does benefit from some type of advertising, but again, that is the company's job to ensure they are represented after donating X amount of dollars. The adventure group would make sure it has all its expenses covered before embarking on an expedition, including possible rescue support. If they didn't they wouldn't be around very long anyway. If they came to you asking for MORE money to rescue their friend, yeah that is a little shady, but I don't think it's too common. But if you don't support these groups anyway, why would you care if some corporate sponsor (not you) is footingf the bill for rescue. Maybe it's in their best interest. Hell maybe they are a helicopter company that benefits from the added exposure.
You said you sponsored NASCAR. So another company should bitch that you paid money for them have ambulances on standby at a race. Why should they? It's not their money.
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 21:30 Post #486
QUOTE(Gnappster)
I don't want to beat a dead horse, but that still doesn't make sense. If you don't like being solicited in general by anyone, I can understand that. But your rant didn't really say that. A business doesn't HAVE to donate money to a non-profit group, it's voluntary. It's also a tax write off. Plus, a company usually does benefit from some type of advertising, but again, that is the company's job to ensure they are represented after donating X amount of dollars. The adventure group would make sure it has all its expenses covered before embarking on an expedition, including possible rescue support. If they didn't they wouldn't be around very long anyway. If they came to you asking for MORE money to rescue their friend, yeah that is a little shady, but I don't think it's too common. But if you don't support these groups anyway, why would you care if some corporate sponsor (not you) is footingf the bill for rescue. Maybe it's in their best interest. Hell maybe they are a helicopter company that benefits from the added exposure.
You said you sponsored NASCAR. So another company should bitch that you paid money for them have ambulances on standby at a race. Why should they? It's not their money.


A well contructed post that made sense AND pointed out the utter idiocy of 3d's posts. When he loses one debate, he just goes off on a tangent about something else which is what I predict he'll do here.

I tend not to believe much about what he posts. He seems to have alotta time on his hands for this uber rich agriculture tycoon :unsure:
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 21:45 Post #487
QUOTE(bondiguy)
A well contructed post that made sense AND pointed out the utter idiocy of 3d's posts. When he loses one debate, he just goes off on a tangent about something else which is what I predict he'll do here.

That's why it's so hard to debate. It's hard to tell what his beef is in the first place, since it changes post to post.

He'll probably just say that he meant to do that, or that he knew we would respond like this all along.
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 21:48 Post #488
QUOTE(Gnappster)
That's why it's so hard to debate. It's hard to tell what his beef is in the first place, since it changes post to post.

He'll probably just say that he meant to do that, or that he knew we would respond like this all along.


Or that the simpsons is crap, or that he was just joking, or that we asked to see pics of his babysitter so thats why he had to make them up, or whatever cock and bull story he can come up with
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 22:50 Post #489
:piss:
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 23:06 Post #490
So we're conversing with a billionaire?

If you donate the money, good for you, if it's not coming from your pocket, don't worry about it, it's not your money!

I feel sorry for you in the fact that money seems to drive your very existence? I am never one to talk about money because I hate people that do that. I hate people that boast about their charitable donations or how much they earn or how much they can spend on NASCAR or whatever. I know people like that and they are, for lack of a better words, fuckwits.

However, just as I predicted your little rant went off on another tangent because you got licked
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 23:13 Post #491
I did feel a little tingle in my arse , thanks for the lick .. , And thats fine you dont talk money cause you dont have money , and thats okay , were your wrong is it does come form my pocket . its a family business, its my father my brother and me , my brother runs a coporation , I run the farm and my dad hes retired and living comfortable ..thats what its all about , my son is coming into the business now , so I to will pass it down to him and he will have to buy in just like I did , nothing in life is free ..
as far as going off on another tangent , you all challenge several things in your posts not just my original rant , so i answer it the way i want to thats why they call is a forum ,a person can post what they wish .. :P
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 23:20 Post #492
QUOTE(ddd35)
I did feel a little tingle in my arse  , thanks for the lick  .. , And thats fine  you dont talk money cause you dont have money  , and thats okay   , were your wrong is it does come form  my pocket   .  its a family  business,  its my father my brother and me   , my brother runs a coporation , I run the farm and my dad  hes retired and living comfortable  ..thats what its all about   , my son is coming into the business now  , so I to will pass it down to him and he will have to buy in just like I did   , nothing in life is free .. 
as far as going off on another tangent  , you all challenge  several things in your posts  not just my  original rant  , so i answer it the way i want to thats why they call is a forum ,a person can post what they wish  ..   :P


How predictable "A person can post what they wish"... an old chestnut!

Look mate, I can handle whatever you throw at me because rednecks like you do not make me lose any sleep at night. I don't talk money because I believe it is rude to do so. i believe it is rude to talk down to people the way you tend to do because you seem to have (or profess to have) some money from your little business. What you don't know is, how much money I have. Don't believe the stereotypes that surfing, pot smoking, liquor drinking Aussies don't have money, because you have not got the faintest idea of my financial situation you stupid fuck. I will pose this to you though. In the space of a few months I am getting married at what could be described as a lavish wedding, I am spending a month in Europe, coming back and spending two more weeks in Japan and Mexico, i own my own home and drive a new car, 2 in fact.

So, go fuck yourself :fuckoff:
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 23:28 Post #493
QUOTE(bondiguy)
How predictable "A person can post what they wish"... an old chestnut!

Look mate, I can handle whatever you throw at me because rednecks like you do not make me lose any sleep at night. I don't talk money because I believe it is rude to do so. i believe it is rude to talk down to people the way you tend to do because you seem to have (or profess to have) some money from your little business. What you don't know is, how much money I have. Don't believe the stereotypes that surfing, pot smoking, liquor drinking Aussies don't have money, because you have not got the faintest idea of my financial situation you stupid fuck. I will pose this to you though. In the space of a few months I am getting married at what could be described as a lavish wedding, I am spending a month in Europe, coming back and spending two more weeks in Japan and Mexico, i own my own home and drive a new car, 2 in fact.

So, go fuck yourself :fuckoff:


sorry mate didnt mean to hit a nerve with your finances but I new if I brought it up youd for sure try to make your self look better off for your stooges and ya did then ya got mad the more ya thought about it and told me to Fuck myself , thats childsih in man's discussion , is it not ? but hey thats okay i said it before I never get mad here I just take it as it comes and the funny part is , you got mad ran and got pay to bail ya out then while im gone larry and curly show up what a joke you really are , .. and hey My neck is red only cause it got burnt in Hawaii .. on my trip that i paid for . :nahnah:
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 23:33 Post #494
QUOTE(bondiguy)
:bang:

That was one rant, but they are also there to help people geniunely in trouble. In your rant you reasoned that those partaking in dangerous activities such as mountain climbing etc to not need saving from dangerous conditions that they put themselves in.

Now even though a beach is patrolled and safe to swim at, the element of danger is always there because of the unpredictability of nature. Your reasoning was that if there was a shark in the waters I shouldn't warrant help in getting ashore safely because it is my fault im out there in the first place.

Do I need to dumb it down a shade?

that was nectar!!!

could you say it in English, Bondi, and spare me your reasoning mumbo-jumbo
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 23:34 Post #495
QUOTE(Bobaloo)
that was nectar!!!

could you say it in English, Bondi, and spare me your reasoning mumbo-jumbo


Oh please !!! :P
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▫ Feb 23 2007, 23:51 Post #496
QUOTE(ddd35)
and you professed already that your future inlaws were paying for  the trip the company you work for is paying the japan and mexico  trip ,yes I do read your thread , so the point is  ?  as far as houses and cars   , HAH  you dont even want to know  ,   ..  :roflmao:    I hit a nerve thats good  , real good   .. someday you will realize I dont come here to debate I come to get under certain people skins  ..   you are the only person I have ever talked down to  and its cause again you think cause  you have 10,000 posts every person here has to bow to you well sorry  mate  .. and hey My neck is red only cause it got burnt in Hawaii .. on my trip that i paid for  . :nahnah:


I know you dont come here to debate because you scarcely know what the word means. You don't get under my skin half as much as you think you do. I just want it to be known by others that it is people like you who give Americans a bad name abroad.

My in-laws are not paying for my holiday to Europe, you know nothing. They are "helping" with the wedding but it is not bourne from any need from my side, more of a want from theirs.

You think you're happy because you have a loaded bank account, property, cars, whatever? You are the one who had to fake a babysitter, who has to flirt with his neigherbour (or the girl who wanted a boobjob) because you obviously do not get satisfied at home. Some of the richest people alive or the most depressed and anyone that believes money buys hapiness is a tragic fool.

I never say anything to anyone that reads, "I have 10,000 posts so listen to me!" I just don't tolerate stupidness or idiocy.

And for the record, I used to get a laugh at the retartedness of your posts but even that has become tiresome so I will just ignore you from now on, maybe then you will go away?

QUOTE(Bobaloo)
that was nectar!!!

could you say it in English, Bondi, and spare me your reasoning mumbo-jumbo


Nectar..... nice :thumbup:
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▫ Feb 24 2007, 04:41 Post #497
Tooo much shit.....toooo fucking funny......

After reading through much muck slinging, MY post, whether anybody gives a shit or not, but hey it's a "FORUM" so I'm allowed, is simply this:

3D you're an asshole. Straight up. You came in and seemed like you were all right till you got caught up in a BS story. Since then it's been nothing but trying to slam back at the guys who caught ya.

deal with it. Move on.

I'm done.
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▫ Feb 24 2007, 06:01 Post #498
QUOTE(paybarraman)
Tooo much shit.....toooo fucking funny......

After reading through much muck slinging, MY post, whether anybody gives a shit or not, but hey it's a "FORUM" so I'm allowed, is simply this:

3D  you're an asshole.  Straight up.  You came in and seemed like you were all right till you got caught up in a BS story.  Since then it's been nothing but trying to slam back at the guys who caught ya. 

deal with it. Move on. 

I'm done.


I could have never said it better myself... A wise, wise man you are Pay!
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▫ Feb 24 2007, 13:01 Post #499
QUOTE(bondiguy)
I know you dont come here to debate because you scarcely know what the word means. You don't get under my skin half as much as you think you do. I just want it to be known by others that it is people like you who give Americans a bad name abroad.

My in-laws are not paying for my holiday to Europe, you know nothing. They are "helping" with the wedding but it is not bourne from any need from my side, more of a want from theirs.

You think you're happy because you have a loaded bank account, property, cars, whatever? You are the one who had to fake a babysitter, who has to flirt with his neigherbour (or the girl who wanted a boobjob) because you obviously do not get satisfied at home. Some of the richest people alive or the most depressed and anyone that believes money buys hapiness is a tragic fool.

I never say anything to anyone that reads, "I have 10,000 posts so listen to me!" I just don't tolerate stupidness or idiocy.

And for the record, I used to get a laugh at the retartedness of your posts but even that has become tiresome so I will just ignore you from now on, maybe then you will go away?
Nectar..... nice :thumbup:


Jealous much !!! the babysitter thing is so last yr mate , come on there has to be something better .. as for being happy , you havent begun to learn the word !!! as far as you getting a laugh i could care less , ANd sorry Ill be here before ya go and when ya get back ... money may not buy hapiness but in your post above you sure made it sound like it was making you happy you actually got to leave your little home andyour 2 cars and travel and without $ youd still just be a beach bum .. ignore if you wish , i think you enjoy, as a matter of fact you thrive on this shit .. or you wouldnt keep beating the drum . as for me giving americans a bad name , HAh your the one that admited you smoke dope , drink to much , and masterbate often , that sure rates high with the aussie people im sure . but again your tangent has switched rants , I didnt think that was allowed ? :P but hey ya showed the world that yes 3d is living the american dream .. money, family ,freinds what more is there ? ..

QUOTE(paybarraman)
Tooo much shit.....toooo fucking funny......

After reading through much muck slinging, MY post, whether anybody gives a shit or not, but hey it's a "FORUM" so I'm allowed, is simply this:

3D  you're an asshole.  Straight up.  You came in and seemed like you were all right till you got caught up in a BS story.  Since then it's been nothing but trying to slam back at the guys who caught ya. 

deal with it. Move on. 

I'm done.


PAy in your 2 seconds of glory you got one thing right I am a Asshole I had already admitted that ..but thanks for caring ... and hey have a great weekend .. :P
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▫ Feb 24 2007, 16:24 Post #500
QUOTE(bondiguy)
Nectar..... nice :thumbup:

Thanks for noticing. I'm trying to make your phrase popular out here. It will take a bit though. You'll know I've succeeded when you see it on a simpsons ep. :lol:

And as for the rest of this thread... holy shit. i missed all this. For some reason when I checked it yesterday and posted my "nectar" comment, I was responding to the latest post, yet today, i see my response is like way way after all the good stuff. Don't know what happened there. I'd have had so much to say in the middle of it all, but it's already moot.

Okay. I gotta go pretend to work again. :)

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