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Some of you may have noticed that now and then we have some major language barriers, despite all speaking english! So, heres a thread to test your knowledge of that great London phenomenon, Cockney Rhyming Slang!!!!
I'll put up a phrase, and we'll see who can work out what it means first, i.e. 'apples and pears' is 'stairs'. I might even come up with prizes?!?

Ok, now you know what your doing, who knows what this is.........

'Fife and Drum'
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QUOTE(penelope @ Mar 20 2006, 01:33 PM)
Some of you may have noticed that now and then we have some major language barriers, despite all speaking english! So, heres a thread to test your knowledge of that great London phenomenon, Cockney Rhyming Slang!!!!
I'll put up a phrase, and we'll see who can work out what it means first, i.e. 'apples and pears' is 'stairs'. I might even come up with prizes?!?

Ok, now you know what your doing, who knows what this is.........

'Fife and Drum'
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QUOTE(penelope @ Mar 20 2006, 03:33 PM)
Some of you may have noticed that now and then we have some major language barriers, despite all speaking english! So, heres a thread to test your knowledge of that great London phenomenon, Cockney Rhyming Slang!!!!
I'll put up a phrase, and we'll see who can work out what it means first, i.e. 'apples and pears' is 'stairs'. I might even come up with prizes?!?

Ok, now you know what your doing, who knows what this is.........

'Fife and Drum'
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When you say prizes, does that mean I get to see a picture of your fife and drum??


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QUOTE(Gnappster @ Mar 20 2006, 03:50 PM)
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No, it has to rhyme with drum. Only think I can think of that would be appropriate around here would be bum. So that's what I'm going with.


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QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Mar 20 2006, 01:52 PM)
No, it has to rhyme with drum.  Only think I can think of that would be appropriate around here would be bum.  So that's what I'm going with.
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OK, I'm gonna add a rule, your not allowed to use the web to find the answer!!!!

Was trying to start off easily, but obviously it was too easy, try this one......

'Lilley and Skinner'

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QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Mar 20 2006, 03:52 PM)
No, it has to rhyme with drum.  Only think I can think of that would be appropriate around here would be bum.  So that's what I'm going with.
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QUOTE(Gnappster @ Mar 20 2006, 03:55 PM)
Ohhhhhhhhh, I get it now!
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QUOTE(penelope @ Mar 20 2006, 01:58 PM)
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lol, naturally.
Where does this originate from? As in, why do 2 words together come to signify something that rhymes with it.
I'm not questioning it as "what's the point". more just out of curiousity.


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QUOTE(Gnappster @ Mar 20 2006, 03:55 PM)
Ohhhhhhhhh, I get it now!
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QUOTE(penelope @ Mar 20 2006, 03:57 PM)
OK, I'm gonna add a rule, your not allowed to use the web to find the answer!!!!

Was trying to start off easily, but obviously it was too easy, try this one......

'Lilley and Skinner'

and no computers!!!!!! popc1.gif
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Can't you use it in a sentence or something? It's really tough without it. But it's your game and your rules, so you don't have to.


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Cockney slang originates from the East end of London, and was intended to allow the locals to chat without being understood by outsiders.

Some forms of slang are very old, but current day expressions get used too. Often the original expression gets shortened or corrupted....for example, Bottle and Glass = arse (ass or butt to some of you)....Aristotle = Bottle...becomes Aris.

Putting some older expressions (in full) into a context, have a go a decoding this...

I left the rub a dub late, and drove the jamjar down the frog and toad to the cat and mouse. The old pot and pan was waiting up, sat at the cain and abel, and he gave me such a butchers hook.

‘What time do you call this?’ he said. ‘You went out with your skin and blister for a ruby murray hours ago. Too much rabbit and pork, that’s your trouble – and a few vera lynn’s from the state of you – you’re brahms and liszt! I suppose you’ve been flashing your Bristol Citys at the Merchant bankers down the battlecruiser!! ‘

‘Don’t you adam and eve it’ I replied, ‘I tried calling you on the dog and bone, but you are either mutt and jeff or you were having a j arthur rank! We had a couple of tiddlywinks with some china plates, and came straight back! Next you’ll be wanting me up them apple and pears for a Friar Tuck! Well, you can take your mince pies off my raspberry ripples, get on your plates of meat and head for the spare room!’

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QUOTE(sweetnsexy @ Mar 20 2006, 11:52 PM)
Cockney slang originates from the East end of London, and was intended to allow the locals to chat without being understood by outsiders.

Some forms of slang are very old, but current day expressions get used too.  Often the original expression gets shortened or corrupted....for example, Bottle and Glass = arse (ass or butt to some of you)....Aristotle  = Bottle...becomes Aris.

Putting some older expressions (in full) into a context, have a go a decoding this...

I left the rub a dub late, and drove the jamjar down the frog and toad to the cat and mouse.  The old pot and pan was waiting up, sat at the cain and abel, and he gave me such a butchers hook. 

‘What time do you call this?’ he said.  ‘You went out with your skin and blister for a ruby murray hours ago.  Too much rabbit and pork, that’s your trouble – and a few vera lynn’s from the state of you – you’re brahms and liszt!  I suppose you’ve been flashing your Bristol Citys at the Merchant bankers down the battlecruiser!! ‘

‘Don’t you adam and eve it’ I replied, ‘I tried calling you on the dog and bone, but you are either mutt and jeff or you were having a j arthur rank!  We had a couple of tiddlywinks with some china plates, and came straight back!  Next you’ll be wanting me up them apple and pears for a Friar Tuck!  Well, you can take your mince pies off my raspberry ripples, get on your plates of meat and head for the spare room!’

He can be a right Hampton Wick at times!!
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QUOTE(sweetnsexy @ Mar 20 2006, 09:52 PM)
Cockney slang originates from the East end of London, and was intended to allow the locals to chat without being understood by outsiders.

Some forms of slang are very old, but current day expressions get used too.  Often the original expression gets shortened or corrupted....for example, Bottle and Glass = arse (ass or butt to some of you)....Aristotle  = Bottle...becomes Aris.

Putting some older expressions (in full) into a context, have a go a decoding this...

I left the rub a dub late, and drove the jamjar down the frog and toad to the cat and mouse.  The old pot and pan was waiting up, sat at the cain and abel, and he gave me such a butchers hook. 

‘What time do you call this?’ he said.  ‘You went out with your skin and blister for a ruby murray hours ago.  Too much rabbit and pork, that’s your trouble – and a few vera lynn’s from the state of you – you’re brahms and liszt!  I suppose you’ve been flashing your Bristol Citys at the Merchant bankers down the battlecruiser!! ‘

‘Don’t you adam and eve it’ I replied, ‘I tried calling you on the dog and bone, but you are either mutt and jeff or you were having a j arthur rank!  We had a couple of tiddlywinks with some china plates, and came straight back!  Next you’ll be wanting me up them apple and pears for a Friar Tuck!  Well, you can take your mince pies off my raspberry ripples, get on your plates of meat and head for the spare room!’

He can be a right Hampton Wick at times!!
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Well mission accomplished cuz I didn't understand any of that!


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QUOTE(Gnappster @ Mar 21 2006, 11:25 AM)
Well mission accomplished cuz I didn't understand any of that!
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Agreed! that's a language where I just don't know what the Finn and Huck is going on!!!


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QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Mar 21 2006, 10:18 AM)
Agreed!  that's a language where I just don't know what the Finn and Huck is going on!!!
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But honestly, this stuff is mission and wimpossible to figure out. (see if anyone gets that one!)


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QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Mar 21 2006, 05:18 PM)
Agreed!  that's a language where I just don't know what the Finn and Huck is going on!!!
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Sorry guys, got called away and had to leave you to it!!! Thanks Sweet, that was awesome, couldn't have done it better myself!!! I like it when we completely confuse the men, you can almost see them squirm.

Well, just got to go and put my currant bun to uncle Ted , then will lock the Rory o'Mores
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QUOTE(sweetnsexy @ Mar 20 2006, 11:52 PM)
Cockney slang originates from the East end of London, and was intended to allow the locals to chat without being understood by outsiders.

Some forms of slang are very old, but current day expressions get used too.  Often the original expression gets shortened or corrupted....for example, Bottle and Glass = arse (ass or butt to some of you)....Aristotle  = Bottle...becomes Aris.

Putting some older expressions (in full) into a context, have a go a decoding this...

I left the rub a dub late, and drove the jamjar down the frog and toad to the cat and mouse.  The old pot and pan was waiting up, sat at the cain and abel, and he gave me such a butchers hook. 

‘What time do you call this?’ he said.  ‘You went out with your skin and blister for a ruby murray hours ago.  Too much rabbit and pork, that’s your trouble – and a few vera lynn’s from the state of you – you’re brahms and liszt!  I suppose you’ve been flashing your Bristol Citys at the Merchant bankers down the battlecruiser!! ‘

‘Don’t you adam and eve it’ I replied, ‘I tried calling you on the dog and bone, but you are either mutt and jeff or you were having a j arthur rank!  We had a couple of tiddlywinks with some china plates, and came straight back!  Next you’ll be wanting me up them apple and pears for a Friar Tuck!  Well, you can take your mince pies off my raspberry ripples, get on your plates of meat and head for the spare room!’

He can be a right Hampton Wick at times!!
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Being an Aussie i understand most of what Sweets said and I will translate

I left the PUB late, and drove the CAR down the ROAD to the HOUSE. The old MAN was waiting up, sat at the TABLE, and he gave me such a LOOK.

‘What time do you call this?’ he said. ‘You went out with your SISTER for a ruby murray(not sure on that one) hours ago. Too much TALK, that’s your trouble – and a few GINS from the state of you – you’re PISSED(drunk for the yanks)! I suppose you’ve been flashing your TITTIES at the WANKERS down the BOOZER(pub)!! ‘

‘Don’t you adam and eve(not sure) it’ I replied, ‘I tried calling you on the PHONE, but you are either MUTE or DEAF or you were having a WANK! We had a couple of DRINKS with some MATES, and came straight back! Next you’ll be wanting me up them STAIRS for a FUCK! Well, you can take your EYES off my NIPPLES, get on your FEET and head for the spare room!’

He can be a right DICK at times!!

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QUOTE(bondiguy @ Mar 22 2006, 05:08 AM)
Being an Aussie i understand most of what Sweets said and I will translate

I left the PUB late, and drove the CAR down the ROAD to the HOUSE.  The old MAN was waiting up, sat at the TABLE, and he gave me such a LOOK. 

‘What time do you call this?’ he said.  ‘You went out with your SISTER for a ruby murray(not sure on that one) hours ago.  Too much TALK, that’s your trouble – and a few GINS from the state of you – you’re PISSED(drunk for the yanks)!  I suppose you’ve been flashing your TITTIES at the WANKERS down the BOOZER(pub)!! ‘

‘Don’t you adam and eve(not sure) it’ I replied, ‘I tried calling you on the PHONE, but you are either MUTE or DEAF or you were having a WANK!  We had a couple of DRINKS with some MATES, and came straight back!  Next you’ll be wanting me up them STAIRS for a FUCK!  Well, you can take your EYES off my NIPPLES, get on your FEET and head for the spare room!’

He can be a right DICK at times!!

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Not bad at all! ruby murray = curry and adam and eve = believe


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Bondi, I am impressed!! food-smiley-004.gif

Apart from a couple, you got most spot on.

Of course, I did make it easier by quoting the full slang...often the expressions used get shortened.....so Bristol Citys = Bristols; Dog and bone = dog; China plate = china.

There are several slang expressions commonly used here which are derived from cockney slang, and often the original meaning has been forgotten...for example, a stupid man might get called a berk, which seems fairly innocuous - until you remember that this is a foreshortening of Berkshire Hunt....!! ohmy.gif


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QUOTE(sweetnsexy @ Mar 22 2006, 10:06 PM)
Bondi, I am impressed!!  food-smiley-004.gif

Apart from a couple, you got most spot on.

Of course, I did make it easier by quoting the full slang...often the expressions used get shortened.....so Bristol Citys = Bristols; Dog and bone = dog; China plate = china.

There are several slang expressions commonly used here which are derived from cockney slang, and often the original meaning has been forgotten...for example, a stupid man might get called a berk, which seems fairly innocuous - until you remember that this is a foreshortening of Berkshire Hunt....!! ohmy.gif
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Thank you thank you! My old man's mother was a pommy so he has picked up alot of the slang and passed it down the line. Some I wasnt sure on but they are pretty easy tp pick up in the context of the writing. Of course in Australia they have become adapted and I just make my own up

Pigs Ear = Beer
Brad Pitts = Shit

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QUOTE(bondiguy @ Mar 23 2006, 03:29 AM)
Brad Pitts = Shit


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A comment on his acting laughing-smiley-017.gif or just the rhymy lingo thing?

Actually your exposure through out life to this type of language play probably has influenced your poetry/ singing hobby.

you ought to post a sound bite of your band.... 2thumbs.gif


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FUCK me and the southen shandy drinkers take the piss out of us northeners 4 the we talk laughing-smiley-017.gif
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FUCK me and the southen shandy drinkers take the piss out of us northeners  4 the we talk  laughing-smiley-017.gif
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I can't believe you would take the time to post something and go through absolutely zero effort to make it a coherrent thought. coz.gif Territorial slang is one thing, but I think your post is based on the inner workings of garbled thoughts. Maybe I'm wrong and that's the way you really talk. But I am very confused, just so you know.


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post Mar 23 2006, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Mar 23 2006, 10:24 AM)
I can't believe you would take the time to post something and go through absolutely zero effort to make it a coherrent thought. coz.gif Territorial slang is one thing, but I think your post is based on the inner workings of garbled thoughts.  Maybe I'm wrong and that's the way you really talk.  But I am very confused, just so you know.
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I was taking the piss no thought went in to it at all cos i dont care being confused is part of being american laughing-smiley-017.gif
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