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Nov 6 2005, 07:26 AM
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i dont know if this is the right place to put this but i just...its after 5 in the morning, im on an hour of sleep....and i cant do anything but think about this and torture myself with it....so i have to do something to get if off my chest. i work at a pizza place, which im sure many of you know if youve ever read my posts and everything. well....last night....around 6 30...we got held up. a guy walked in, who was about half my size, pointed a gun at everyone and told them to get on the ground.....then he had our manager open the drawer and pull all the money for him. he walked out with around 450 bucks. my buddy walked in on the middle of it. but im beathing the FUCK out of myself for not doing anything. if i had been where one of the girls was, i could have grabbed a weapon and hit him with it in the head...most likely knocking him out. or if i had been outside where my buddy was, i could have waited for him to leave and attacked him. if i had been where my manager was i could have gotten him when he had me get up to get the money. as it is, he should have already come after me because i had over 200 dollars in my back pockets from delivery money and my wallet. i feel that i should have done something to stop him..i should have charged him or something...chased him when he left.....but i dont know what anymore...i just cant stop playing the whole thing in my head over and over again. i dont know if i should even think about it...i know everyone will tell me i did the right thing by complying to everything he said....but i will never get it out of my head that i should have done something. i feel like a pussy. i was one of the first to get to the ground because i was one of the first to actually realize what was going on...the first thing that went thru my head was "do as he says" but as soon as he left i was thinking why didnt you stop him....you could have stopped him.....im sorry to be bothering you with this drivle and everything..just...i really need to get some advice and everything from my old friends......and i just have to get this out...i cant even sleep rightnow....and i have to be at work again....at 11..............................
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Nov 6 2005, 10:25 AM
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I know I'm only a n00b and not really who you were directing this at. But I KNOW you did the right thing by complying with everything and not escalating the matter. say you had jumped him, there are so many variables that could have made things go wrong. Say he went down in 1 hit, if the gun was armed it could have gone off when you hit him or when it hit the ground, or maybe you didnt knock him down and a fight broke out, then something really bad could have happened to you, the manager, some of the girls, anyone.
Just keep focusing on the fact that the way things played out no-one got hurt and in these situations unfortunately thats the best outcome anyone can hope for.
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Nov 6 2005, 01:01 PM
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Hey Naz, let me give you a little perspective. When I was in the Marine Corps, one of my main duties was I had to guard the payroll. The Captain and I would walk to the bank on base. It was probably a half mile away. I'd be carrying a Colt .45, with the clip in, along with a satchel to carry the cash in. We'd do this two or three times a week, as we needed cash. The base I was stationed at had a battallion that was always on alert; this means that the marines there kept there rifles with them, not locked in an amorory like most units. In other words, three times a week I'd be carrying 50-60,000 cash thru a route where 2500 Marines had access to their M16s. One on of the first trips, the captain and I went over what we'd do if we were ambushed or held-up. We both came to the same conclusion, neither one of us was going to take a round to the head to save the goverment 60,000 dollars. Or as the captain put it; " If they want the money, not only will I give it to them, I'd help load it into the car, and wave good-bye as they left" We both realized that to the goverment, money is only paper, if they want more all they need to do is run the presses a little longer. The same is true with the company you work for, insurance will cover any loss. For a big insurance company, $450 is less than nothing. In Japan, we'd pick up over $250,000 cash.One million Japanese lived on this island where the average person made maybe $1000 a year. Two Marines would go with an officer to the bank on the next base over in a van for about 20 miles. We were not only armed, we had a round in the chamber, slide back, with the safety on. We were told the same thing, give up the cash, do what they say. If that's the standard protocol for two armed Marines, I don't think more can be expected from an unarmed guy working at a pizza joint. I've had plenty of weapons training, hand to hand combat training, etc.,and I'd have done exactly what you did. And slept like a baby knowing I did the right thing. As far as second-guessing your actions, the fact that nobody got hurt should be 99.99 per cent of your thinking.
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Nov 7 2005, 11:19 AM
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I only read your first post cuz I am a lazy bastard, it's probably been said already, but fuck risking your life for your job. Yeah it seems cool when Spiderman does it, but it isn't worth your life for a few hundred bucks. If it was to protect your family or along those lines, maybe it would be different, but in this situation, I'd give the dude the money and maybe offer him a pizza for the road too lol.
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Nov 7 2005, 01:15 PM
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Okay, here is my two cents worth (from the cop). Everyone has been telling you, you did the right thing. They are 100 per cent correct. Closeup probably described it best so far. No life is worth money...you can always get more money...and that is yet another reason we have insurance. You can't collect if you died trying to be a super hero. When we/cops are off duty we are trained to be the very best witness we can be. Even though I am always packing my 45 cal. Sig-Sauer P220 with handcuffs and an extra magazine when I am off duty...I lack all of the protection my uniform and duty equipment provide. We try to get involved when the tables have turned to our advantage. Like... my position affords me cover from bullets, I have time to draw my weapon, innocents are clear of harm, you know where all the bad guys are... Do you get the point? There are tons of variable that have to be evaluated before engaging someone intent on violence. And the most important goal of cops...and it is those people who interfere with that goal that cause some of the violent reactions you see from cops (which the news media never explain). You should make this your personal number 1 goal as well. ** I am going home to my family at the end of my shift. ** Try to image what could have happen if you had tried to disarm that SOB in the wrong direction. You could have a bunch of grieving people instead of just scared people.
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Nov 11 2005, 09:35 PM
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There is no amount of money in all the world that is worth your life, or anyone else's life, at the hands of an armed robber. You did exactly the right thing, better even if you were the first to react, you showed the rest of the people there what to do. You prevented a robbery from escalating to something worse.
That said, you might want to see if you can get some counselling. I'm not saying you'll need it for life, but especially as you seem to be working all the time, plus school, I think you could probably use a neutral person to talk to and discuss what happened. Being at the wrong end of a gun is not something that happens to everyone, it has an effect, and it's worth taking the time (and cash if necessary) to make sure it has the least effect on your future as possible.
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Nov 11 2005, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(denyse @ Nov 11 2005, 09:35 PM) There is no amount of money in all the world that is worth your life, or anyone else's life I have to agree; here in Perth there was a school bus accident a few of weeks ago; the bus was fitted with seatbealts and now there is a big push from the public to get seatbelts in all school buses; yet the government is holding out. One of the kids on the bus said that she didn't understand why - life is more important than even $50 million. I could not agree more. Money comes and goes but Life is irreplaceable.
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Nov 12 2005, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(denyse @ Nov 11 2005, 09:35 PM) There is no amount of money in all the world that is worth your life, or anyone else's life, at the hands of an armed robber. You did exactly the right thing, better even if you were the first to react, you showed the rest of the people there what to do. You prevented a robbery from escalating to something worse. That said, you might want to see if you can get some counselling. I'm not saying you'll need it for life, but especially as you seem to be working all the time, plus school, I think you could probably use a neutral person to talk to and discuss what happened. Being at the wrong end of a gun is not something that happens to everyone, it has an effect, and it's worth taking the time (and cash if necessary) to make sure it has the least effect on your future as possible. When I read this I thought it really made sense and is excellent advice. You need to get back on track. While you can't erase what happened, you can minimize the impact it's having.
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