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Conspiracy Theories, Anyone have any?
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May 18 2006, 01:45 AM
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Wether you believe them or not, or take them case by case, you can't help but love hearing about a good conspiracy theory!!!
On this talkback show the other night on radio they had people ringing in about their 9/11 conspiracy theories which prompted me to think... do you guys and girls have any good ones???
I am a massive fan of Kurt Cobain and I strongly believe his death was not suicide and that he was murdered. There is a stack of evidence supporting that claim which I could go into if you like but i want to hear some others too...
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Isaac_Putin |
May 18 2006, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(bondiguy @ May 18 2006, 01:45 AM) Wether you believe them or not, or take them case by case, you can't help but love hearing about a good conspiracy theory!!! On this talkback show the other night on radio they had people ringing in about their 9/11 conspiracy theories which prompted me to think... do you guys and girls have any good ones??? I am a massive fan of Kurt Cobain and I strongly believe his death was not suicide and that he was murdered. There is a stack of evidence supporting that claim which I could go into if you like but i want to hear some others too... Kurt Cobain was the MAN!!!! What a talented guy and a terrible loss. Can't think of too many conspiracies that I actually believe. Back soon.
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natalie |
May 18 2006, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(Gnappster @ May 18 2006, 01:26 PM) whoa deja vu! Anyway, as for the 9/11 conspiracy I never bought into it before and in general I don't buy into most conspiracy theories anymore. But after seeing the documentary, it really got me thinking. Obviously it is done with a bias to the filmmakers' point of view but they have a lot better explanation than I've ever heard from the government and all their facts are verifiable. What happened to the people supposedly on the planes is a little hard to believe, but take 90 minutes out of your day and watch THIS . The biggest kicker is that no skyscraper has ever totally collapsed due to fire or being hit by a plane. Even the Empire State building which was hit by a bomber never came close to collapsing. I'm not saying I believe everything in the documentary, but I think the government has a lot more involvement than they've let on. So instead of watching the Sex and the City Marathon tonight, take some time and watch 9/11 Loose Change And that is allŪ I don't know if I still have it but I was sent a video about the supposed plane that hit the pentagon. If you really look at the photos and hear what the I witnesses have to say I truly believe the government hit it with a missile. How convienient that the "plane" hit the only part of the building that was under repairs and had been for some time.
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Gnappster |
May 18 2006, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(closeup2 @ May 18 2006, 01:53 PM) My main argument against most conspiracy theories is they give the government way to much credit for being able to both pull it off AND keep it quiet after. I've seen "Loose Change" and alot of their information is taken out of context to the point of being unbelievable. When some of the people who were interveiwed for that show were subsequently asked if what was aired actually represented what they had said, many of the people stated that it did not. It's almost analogous to cutting letters out of a newspaper, printing the message you want to dissiminate, than point out that it all came from the "New York Times" because that's where all the words came from. If 9/11 was a government set-up, would George Bush be shown sitting there like an idiot reading to a bunch of schoolkids when the planes attacked? That being said, I did see Marilyn Monroe giving Jimmy Hoffa a BJ behind a New Jersey resturant. JFK and Elvis were waiting for their turn sitting at the counter. PICS!?
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May 18 2006, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(Gnappster @ May 18 2006, 03:56 PM) PICS!? Plenty of pictures, but they're all blurry and out of focus. Kinda like all the ones you see of Bigfoot and Aliens.
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May 18 2006, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(Gnappster @ May 18 2006, 04:18 PM) Nighthawks, that's a great painting(yes I'm an art nerd too, among other forms of nerdery). Edward Hopper right? I thought it was called "Lost Dreams" or something like that.
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Isaac_Putin |
May 18 2006, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(closeup2 @ May 18 2006, 04:11 PM) Santa Claus is a good example of people needing to believe in things that aren't there. I was watching some documentary about how some people don't believe that man has walked on the moon. It was like no matter what these people were shown or how their "evidence" was debunked, you could tell not one of them had any intention of changing their minds. They can join the "Flat Earth Society" along with the Elvis sighters and the 911 gang and all go live at the North Pole where it rains gumdrops. My brother dated a beautiful female lawyer -- who didn't believe we landed on the moon. Can you imagine the 10's of thousands of people that would have to keep that secret??? All astronaughts and the mission control people knowing that they are basically staring at nothing and pretending that the people landed? And the 100+ people who have gone into space? The thousands of spaceship designers, and repair personnel, who are basically creating movie props under this theory? And the moon rocks, what are they? And space junk, what exactly is that? And are satellites? Are they real? Because my GPS and satellite radio work pretty well for stuff based on a fiction. I never got a chance to ask her about all this. My brother broke up with her because she apparently thought that the "myth" of the female orgasm was a massive conspiracy theory, too.
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Gnappster |
May 18 2006, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(Isaac_Putin @ May 18 2006, 04:12 PM) My brother dated a beautiful female lawyer -- who didn't believe we landed on the moon. Can you imagine the 10's of thousands of people that would have to keep that secret??? All astronaughts and the mission control people knowing that they are basically staring at nothing and pretending that the people landed? And the 100+ people who have gone into space? The thousands of spaceship designers, and repair personnel, who are basically creating movie props under this theory? And the moon rocks, what are they? And space junk, what exactly is that? And are satellites? Are they real? Because my GPS and satellite radio work pretty well for stuff based on a fiction. I never got a chance to ask her about all this. My brother broke up with her because she apparently thought that the "myth" of the female orgasm was a massive conspiracy theory, too. Well, I gotta be a devil's advocate. Having satellites in space is an entirely different proposition than going to the moon, both from a distance and logistical standpoint. Moon rocks are found on many continents especially Antarctica. NASA was even looking for them there during the Apollo years..hmmmm. The only conclusive proof that spacecraft has gone to the moon is the mirror placed there for laser distance measurements but that doesn't mean people put them there. btw, I believe man has walked on the moon lol.
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May 19 2006, 12:00 AM
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WOW this thread is alive! I love it guys..
Like I said you don't have to believe in them but conspiracy theories are great... I love them!
For the record i think 9/11 WAS a terrorist act by Al Queda, and I believe man has walked onto the moon!
Re 9/11 how do the theorist explain the 50 odd people who lost their lives on flight 77, and their grieveing families or are they all in on it? A missile? please....
Re Kurt Cobain there are too many facts to ignore;
At the time of his death Kurt had 3 times the lethal limit of Heroin in his bloodstream, making it impossible for him to be coherent enough to load a gun, put it into his mouth and pull the triger!
What makes it even more unblieveable is that there are NO fingerprints on the gun at all, and Kurt was not wearing gloves when he "shot himself"
Courtney was about to be divorced by Kurt and he had actually written a will excluding her but it was yet to be finalised and signed and was therefore defunct.
There is a tonne of evidence and if anyone is interested I can go into it in further detail.... in the meantime keep those theories coming!!!
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May 19 2006, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(bondiguy @ May 18 2006, 10:00 PM) WOW this thread is alive! I love it guys.. Like I said you don't have to believe in them but conspiracy theories are great... I love them! For the record i think 9/11 WAS a terrorist act by Al Queda, and I believe man has walked onto the moon! Re 9/11 how do the theorist explain the 50 odd people who lost their lives on flight 77, and their grieveing families or are they all in on it? A missile? please.... Re Kurt Cobain there are too many facts to ignore; At the time of his death Kurt had 3 times the lethal limit of Heroin in his bloodstream, making it impossible for him to be coherent enough to load a gun, put it into his mouth and pull the triger! What makes it even more unblieveable is that there are NO fingerprints on the gun at all, and Kurt was not wearing gloves when he "shot himself" Courtney was about to be divorced by Kurt and he had actually written a will excluding her but it was yet to be finalised and signed and was therefore defunct. There is a tonne of evidence and if anyone is interested I can go into it in further detail.... in the meantime keep those theories coming!!! It wouldn't be too far fetched to believe that nut job Courtney Love had something to do with it.
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May 19 2006, 01:19 PM
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i absolutely LOVE conspiracy theories!!! i dont know much about the Kurt Cobain situation and i am definitely open to everyones views on 9/11. but i must say, i am enthralled by the JFK assassination! BIGTIME conspiracy in sooooo many ways. i have to admit that this was the single most interesting thing i ever learned in highschool. lol. and i think the whole thing is fucked upppp!!! i love this discussion thread! way to go!
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May 19 2006, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(Gnappster @ May 19 2006, 12:51 PM) It wouldn't be too far fetched to believe that nut job Courtney Love had something to do with it. With all that herion in his system he must have been attempting suicide on the installment plan. Courtney Love probably just hurried it along a few years.
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May 19 2006, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(Isaac_Putin @ May 18 2006, 06:12 PM) My brother dated a beautiful female lawyer -- who didn't believe we landed on the moon. Can you imagine the 10's of thousands of people that would have to keep that secret??? All astronaughts and the mission control people knowing that they are basically staring at nothing and pretending that the people landed? And the 100+ people who have gone into space? The thousands of spaceship designers, and repair personnel, who are basically creating movie props under this theory? And the moon rocks, what are they? And space junk, what exactly is that? And are satellites? Are they real? Because my GPS and satellite radio work pretty well for stuff based on a fiction. I never got a chance to ask her about all this. My brother broke up with her because she apparently thought that the "myth" of the female orgasm was a massive conspiracy theory, too. As I'm sure you figured out, you brothers lawyer friend must be a bit daft. The moon rocks that came back from one of the trips to the moon were treated as more valuable that gold or diamonds. They cost that much to obtain. They were devided up among serveral university and government labs to be studied. Some of the rocks were studied in both the astronomy and chemistry department of the university where I work. That was many years ago. In one of the labs where these rocks were studied, they used a hand-crank grain mill to grind the samples being studied into dust. A number of years later when the proffessor in charge of that lab died, I was involved with helping clean up the lab. I ended up with that grain mill. (It now decorates a shelf in my basement, along with other dust and clutter.) Of course we went to the moon. How do you spell " P H O TO S H O P ?"
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