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Afghanistan, When is it all too much?
Ratt |
Jan 18 2006, 03:18 AM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 18 2006, 04:15 PM) LOL It's allright. And Yes I vote also. I just get so frustrated with our Priorites some time. I vote Chris Rock for presi. WOOT!!! That is the one thing I am *really* jealous about... You Americans can choose to vote or not... In Australia, we have a democratically elected dictatorship. Bonzai's party got both houses, so anything he wants, he gets. And we have to vote, if we dont, we get fined.
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Jan 18 2006, 03:18 AM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 18 2006, 03:15 AM) LOL It's allright. And Yes I vote also. I just get so frustrated with our Priorites some time. I vote Chris Rock for presi. WOOT!!! I agree with you, I'm not happy with everything that's going on either. I just get into defense mode when I think I'm talking to someone foreign. I guess I am a hypocrite!
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bts34e |
Jan 18 2006, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 18 2006, 03:09 AM) Well I guess it's good that in America you have that right as do I. Do I think every person is bad. Of course not. But when it comes to our politics concerning other countries I think we are the biggest hypocrites out there.. JMO of course. And I myself have had many people close to me fight in this war the Iraq war and Dessert Storm Vietnam and WW2. All the men in my family are military. My little bro ws shipped off to Iraq just fresh out of boot camp and training for over a year! Many thanks for your families service and safe home to your brother, he's very much respected. As far as this political talk goes, I'm pretty sure our government is widely considered the best working system so far in history. Nothing is perfect, everything can be improved. As far as calling the United States hypocrites is unfounded and unfair. Once again a case of someone bashing the United States without example or explanation, and a fellow American at that with a brother serving! I want to know why we are hypocrites, Is it the politically correct thing to say to people from other countries suddenly? Because we gave Irac weapons years ago? Or because we gave Africa $20+ billion in AIDS relief?
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Ratt |
Jan 18 2006, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(bts34e @ Jan 18 2006, 10:48 PM) Many thanks for your families service and safe home to your brother, he's very much respected. As far as this political talk goes, I'm pretty sure our government is widely considered the best working system so far in history. Nothing is perfect, everything can be improved. As far as calling the United States hypocrites is unfounded and unfair. Once again a case of someone bashing the United States without example or explanation, and a fellow American at that with a brother serving! I want to know why we are hypocrites, Is it the politically correct thing to say to people from other countries suddenly? Because we gave Irac weapons years ago? Or because we gave Africa $20+ billion in AIDS relief? Sorry bts, I gotta ask a question... Why is her brother a hero for being in Iraq? No disrespect to diane's brother; but what makes him so special? The fact that he puts his life on the line for his country? Tell me, a police officer puts their life on the line every day as well, for their country, yet most people treat them like scum. Could this be the hypocricy that you ask of? Ratt. NOTE This was not posted to start an arguement of flaming. Sorry if it offends any; that was never my intent. - Ratt.
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bts34e |
Jan 18 2006, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(Ratt @ Jan 18 2006, 10:25 AM) Sorry bts, I gotta ask a question... Why is her brother a hero for being in Iraq? No disrespect to diane's brother; but what makes him so special? The fact that he puts his life on the line for his country? Tell me, a police officer puts their life on the line every day as well, for their country, yet most people treat them like scum. Could this be the hypocricy that you ask of? Ratt. NOTE This was not posted to start an arguement of flaming. Sorry if it offends any; that was never my intent. - Ratt. Your right "hero" was the wrong word, should have said "very much respected" I'll change it, and I do feal the same about community workers.
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bts34e |
Jan 18 2006, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(Ratt @ Jan 18 2006, 10:41 AM) Much appreciated... Whilst I have a lot of respect for the fighting men and women of ANY country, I do think that the term 'Hero' is thrown around too easily now-a-days. It used to be reserved for someone who had perfromed acts above and beyond the call of duty... but it seems now it as just for doing your job and getting noticed for it Agreed!
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bts34e |
Jan 18 2006, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(johnny wadd @ Jan 18 2006, 11:30 AM) I joined this site to admire these very beautiful ladies. It is a shame that this has to be my first post but I cannot believe what I am reading."If the Netherlands doesn't help with the war effort they will face dire sanctions.",Give me a break! I would like to know what Gov't official wrote this Quote. This is nonsense! The United States is beginning to say this to Iran and only because they want nuclear weapons. I doubt this was said to the Netherlands unless they to are planning on building nukes. Regarding Afghanistan, The USA should level this rotten country. I am sorry that our brave soldiers must die but ours is a volunteer army and this is the job they signed up for. We cannot let 9-11-01 happen again. I have very strong feelings on this subject since I live in NYC. I would like to get into this more but I will cut myself off because I don't believe this is the right forum to be discussing this important subject IMHO. A little stronger then I would have said it but, Woot there it is!
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Gnappster |
Jan 18 2006, 11:50 AM
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we should debate religion while we're at it here lol. 3 things I don't like to debate are religion, poiltics or what country is better than another. But good points have been made here. I think that Netherlands quote is maybe taken out of context or something. I am from Canada and we chose to send troops to Afghanistan to help with peace keeping but chose NOT to send troops to invade Iraq. The US wanted our troops to go to Iraq as well, but they repected our decision not to, albeit after some trashtalking back and forth. And we haven't felt any dire sanctions yet, and we live directly north of them. And I think there is a lot of anti-american propaganda in other countries, cuz when you are arguably the most powerful country, of course other nations will take pot-shots at you. Hey I don't like Aussie's either, but it is more enjoyable making fun of Americans (ONLY KIDDING! )
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diane26 |
Jan 18 2006, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(Ratt @ Jan 18 2006, 07:25 AM) Sorry bts, I gotta ask a question... Why is her brother a hero for being in Iraq? No disrespect to diane's brother; but what makes him so special? The fact that he puts his life on the line for his country? Tell me, a police officer puts their life on the line every day as well, for their country, yet most people treat them like scum. Could this be the hypocricy that you ask of? Ratt. NOTE This was not posted to start an arguement of flaming. Sorry if it offends any; that was never my intent. - Ratt. In the same respect the soilders we fight are no different. They do what they signed up for. They fight for there country and listen to there leaders. I hold no ill will towards the regular soilders of other countries we fight. They are doing the same thing our troops our doing. Now the wacky leaders and there partites different story. Same with us as well.
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Ratt |
Jan 18 2006, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ Jan 19 2006, 08:29 AM) Well again I want to clarify I was speaking about soliders in general right here I say COUNTRIES "In the same respect the soilders we fight are no different. They do what they signed up for. They fight for there country and listen to there leaders. I hold no ill will towards the regular soilders of other countries " because I was speaking of soilders from all around in wars we fight. The men and woman that sign up for there country. I may not agree what they are fighting for b ut that is what they signed up for just like I know many US troops that dont agree with us being in Iraq but they do there job because that is what they signed up for. I am not talking about any extremest group or underground organization radicals or any of that. Just the regular soilders that most countries have that do what they are told and do there job bravely. Now to ease the tension in here Nice way to ease the tension.
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diane26 |
Jan 18 2006, 11:47 PM
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