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diane26 |
Apr 11 2006, 11:00 PM
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week the class is on Tuesdays and Thursday nights and I find out my teacher is MISSING. The last time he was seen was on the last day of March.... Since I missed last week I had no idea but apparently there was no class cause he has just dissapered. this is like the third OC teacher to go missing in the past year. THey just posted it on the News site today. Here is the link http://kitsapsun.com/bsun/local/article/0,...4613530,00.htmlI am in shock I have never known anyone on a personal level that has gone missing.
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Apr 17 2006, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ Apr 17 2006, 10:14 PM) Like I said earlier, I'm glad I never will have to understand it, but... I'm pretty sure the only feelings a person about to commit suicide is considering are their own. They may try to blame other factors or people or what have you, but they are considering their own feelings. If others' were considered, they would understand that suicide is not really a choise others would have you choose. I don't know. In the wise words of the much more verbose Dennis Miller, "That's just my opinion. I could be wrong."
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diane26 |
Apr 17 2006, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 17 2006, 07:19 PM) Like I said earlier, I'm glad I never will have to understand it, but... I'm pretty sure the only feelings a person about to commit suicide is considering are their own. They may try to blame other factors or people or what have you, but they are considering their own feelings. If others' were considered, they would understand that suicide is not really a choise others would have you choose. I don't know. In the wise words of the much more verbose Dennis Miller, "That's just my opinion. I could be wrong." Well I tried killing myself a few times didn't work than I made a serious attempt and it was "in my mind at the time" I completely unselfish act, I was doing it for my son "or so I thought at the time" it was a phone call from a worried friend and a call to 911 and a night of drinking charcoal in the ER that saved my life, and with lots of help I see things a whole lot differently now but when someone has a mental illness they do not think logically like a person not in that situation. Sure some people kill themselves for selfish reasons such as pay back to a ex lover or murder suicides and what have you, but I would venture to say this is not the norm, and when you are in that situation contiplating life or death and stuff usually you are thinking of those around you and you are convinced of how much better there life will be after they mourn your death,. Just the opinion from someone that has been there and spent many of years to get myself on a better path.
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Bobaloo |
Apr 17 2006, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ Apr 17 2006, 10:27 PM) Well I tried killing myself a few times didn't work than I made a serious attempt and it was "in my mind at the time" I completely unselfish act, I was doing it for my son "or so I thought at the time" it was a phone call from a worried friend and a call to 911 and a night of drinking charcoal in the ER that saved my life, and with lots of help I see things a whole lot differently now but when someone has a mental illness they do not think logically like a person not in that situation. Sure some people kill themselves for selfish reasons such as pay back to a ex lover or murder suicides and what have you, but I would venture to say this is not the norm, and when you are in that situation contiplating life or death and stuff usually you are thinking of those around you and you are convinced of how much better there life will be after they mourn your death,. Just the opinion from someone that has been there and spent many of years to get myself on a better path. I didn't say that the person contemplating suicide is a selfish person; I mean that the act itself is selfish, whether the victim knows it's selfish or not. Selfish people (like kids who won't share) don't know they're being selfish. Or maybe it's really more inconsideration. Interjection: Ironically there's a commercial advertising the overnight walk which is meant to spread suicide awareness and prevention. Anyway... Obviously there's something else going through a person's mind other than rational thought. While it may have seemed selfless at the time, now that you've gotten help and are able to think back on the time, don't you see how had you committed the act how it may have been on the selfish side. Would your son have been better off??? HELL NO!!! It was probably hard f-ing work to get help and get back on tract, but think of how much better things are that you're here in your loved ones' lives that had you succeeded. then again, I could be talking out my ass. I am fortunate enough not to have had any close encounters with someone contemplating suicide. But I tried to think it through logically for this post and I think I at the very least make a little bit of sense.
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diane26 |
Apr 17 2006, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 17 2006, 07:42 PM) I didn't say that the person contemplating suicide is a selfish person; I mean that the act itself is selfish, whether the victim knows it's selfish or not. Selfish people (like kids to who share) don't know they're being selfish. Or maybe it's really more inconsideration. Interjection: Ironically there's a commercial advertising the overnight walk which is meant to spread suicide awareness and prevention. Anyway... Obviously there's something else going through a person's mind other than rational thought. While it may have seemed selfless at the time, now that you've gotten help and are able to think back on the time, don't you see how had you committed the act how it may have been on the selfish side. Would your son have been better off??? HELL NO!!! It was probably hard f-ing work to get help and get back on tract, but think of how much better things are that you're here in your loved ones' lives that had you succeeded. then again, I could be talking out my ass. I am fortunate enough not to have had any close encounters with someone contemplating suicide. But I tried to think it through logically for this post and I think I at the very least make a little bit of sense. At the time I think he would have been better even now thinking logically, the situation I was in, the life he would have had when my parents adopted him would have been a really good life. He was very young so he would not have remembered me he would have the always there question though. For that I don't know how much that would have effected his life. B ut I know he would have been provided with a very loving home. As far as myself besides my children I only have one stong rock in my life. Everyone else I don't think would have there life changed if I were gone, I mean I know some people would be sad but would be fine moving on, my step mom would take it the hardest after the kids but I would not get to that point now anyway. Regardless I hate hearing about what a selfish thing it is because it is a very complex situation most of the time.. I always here how selfesh the person was how they wanted the easy way out of life how they were so weak and this and that and it really is not that black and white and to really understand I think you would have to have been that deep into that darkness and got out of it. I mean really in it not the times every now and than or as a teen when you were grounded or something. But when you were seriously contiplating ending yourown life. But yes I can see for the most part what you are getting at. Many things in life are selfish for the most part most humans are selfish people by nature.
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Apr 17 2006, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ Apr 17 2006, 10:49 PM) At the time I think he would have been better even now thinking logically, the situation I was in, the life he would have had when my parents adopted him would have been a really good life. He was very young so he would not have remembered me he would have the always there question though. For that I don't know how much that would have effected his life. B ut I know he would have been provided with a very loving home. As far as myself besides my children I only have one stong rock in my life. Everyone else I don't think would have there life changed if I were gone, I mean I know some people would be sad but would be fine moving on, my step mom would take it the hardest after the kids but I would not get to that point now anyway. Regardless I hate hearing about what a selfish thing it is because it is a very complex situation most of the time.. I always here how selfesh the person was how they wanted the easy way out of life how they were so weak and this and that and it really is not that black and white and to really understand I think you would have to have been that deep into that darkness and got out of it. I mean really in it not the times every now and than or as a teen when you were grounded or something. But when you were seriously contiplating ending yourown life. But yes I can see for the most part what you are getting at. Many things in life are selfish for the most part most humans are selfish people by nature. I can say that "at the time" isn't the only time. No matter what was going on in your life at the time, there is a future ahead of that time. you probably couldn't think it all through then, but look at the changes you've made and how you have the awesome opportunity to be a positive influence in people's lives, whehter ou sons, other family members', or just other people you run across. Oftentimes you may not even realize you're being a postive influence. Your son may have been too young at the time, but you knew he'd grow up wondering. Then the rest of his life he would have had to wonder if his being born was a factor. And that probalby isn't the case, but he would still have to wonder that. And, yes, humans are selfish. The fact remains that I could never know or understand what was going thorugh your mind at the time. I know no one will ever understand what your professor's hardships were. Everyone has their own hell. For me to say that yours or anyone else's hell is any better or worse than mine simply is not possible. But on the same token, a person who commits suicide has not properly evaluted the repurcussions of their actions on all concerned at all times down the road. It goes without saying that I'm glad you had the strength and support to work through your problems. I applaud you for overcoming your struggle Besides, just think how horrible it would be if you never got to meet me. ****Okay. I keep getting phone calls and getting distracted... So I'm just going to send this without proofreading... i hope it makes sense.
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diane26 So I Go To My Psych Class Today Since Missing Last Apr 11 2006, 11:00 PM Isaac_Putin
I had a professor who died the day before the fi... Apr 11 2006, 11:05 PM diane26
In a way that would be better but I met him and c... Apr 11 2006, 11:07 PM Bobaloo
It's probably in poor taste to make a joke ab... Apr 11 2006, 11:54 PM Bobaloo
Welp, no clues. But there's a sale at Penny... Apr 12 2006, 10:58 AM foxy lady That is awful news, let's hope they find him... Apr 12 2006, 09:20 AM Gnappster
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No not the same professor this is a new quarter h... Apr 17 2006, 12:29 PM natalie
I also was only about 15 when this guy named Tyl... Apr 17 2006, 01:07 PM diane26 Well they just said on the news **can't find i... Apr 17 2006, 09:41 PM Bobaloo
WTF!!! I'm glad that I will neve... Apr 17 2006, 09:58 PM diane26
I can understand it and unless someone has wage... Apr 17 2006, 10:10 PM UncleBuck were you in both of those prof's. classes d26 ... Apr 17 2006, 10:05 PM diane26
NO ironically out of three people I have known to... Apr 17 2006, 10:08 PM diane26
I disagree. Apr 17 2006, 10:12 PM diane26
Thanks BOO, I see life in a whole new light than... Apr 18 2006, 02:26 AM UncleBuck
well said :P Apr 17 2006, 10:59 PM UncleBuck had to deal with it this weekend actually a good f... Apr 17 2006, 10:17 PM diane26
Maybe it is selfish to think its all about everyo... Apr 17 2006, 10:18 PM Bobaloo
yeah, but what about 3 pairs of titties, a guy na... Apr 17 2006, 10:21 PM diane26
Can Wigglez and Nat be the extra titties too?? Apr 17 2006, 10:28 PM Bobaloo
:thumbup: :2thumbsup: :bonerfied: well, you get... Apr 17 2006, 10:35 PM natalie
Ah Diane I knew you wouldn't forget me. How ... Apr 18 2006, 01:02 PM diane26
I could never forget http://img.photobucket.com/a... Apr 18 2006, 02:45 PM foxy lady
You can count me.....wouldn't miss it :wub: Apr 18 2006, 04:02 PM jlynn
I know, I'm a little slow at reading things... Apr 26 2006, 11:39 AM Bobaloo
That hot tub is looking all the more enticing... Apr 18 2006, 03:51 PM natalie
Looks like less and less room for you. You can b... Apr 18 2006, 04:15 PM diane26
Liquid Courage come to mehttp://jackiesworld.net/... Apr 18 2006, 04:21 PM foxy lady
Hell Diane I'll even bring it for ya......w... Apr 18 2006, 04:28 PM diane26 :kisses:
Schmirnoff please :kisses: Apr 18 2006, 04:34 PM foxy lady
Consider it done :thumbup: Apr 18 2006, 04:41 PM Bobaloo
I'd be more than happy to be the towel boy. ... Apr 18 2006, 04:39 PM diane26 So when is orgi I mean party I can hardly wait. Apr 18 2006, 04:48 PM foxy lady
I'm waiting to be told the date :thumbup: Apr 18 2006, 06:20 PM belicked6924 There was a very serious issue being discused here... Apr 18 2006, 11:55 PM jlynn And suicide...wow. I'll skip all my psych-majo... Apr 26 2006, 11:52 AM natalie
I think you did just fine. :thumbup: Apr 26 2006, 01:52 PM Isaac_Putin Suicide is committed for a variety of reasons, but... Apr 26 2006, 02:28 PM somfan Diane -
I'm a little slow to react here, but t... Apr 26 2006, 09:05 PM somfan
Diane -
I'm a little slow to react here, but ... Apr 26 2006, 09:15 PM diane26
I made a post on that blog somfan.
I would cons... Apr 28 2006, 01:39 AM somfan
I read your post on that blog. It's good th... Apr 28 2006, 03:24 AM diane26 Issac where did you get this from "but a lot ... Apr 28 2006, 01:34 AM Isaac_Putin
I got if from tons of stuff I've read. I do... Apr 28 2006, 12:17 PM diane26
The exact kind of people that annoy me. I wonde... Apr 28 2006, 12:22 PM Isaac_Putin
It's a controversial topic. What makes the ... Apr 28 2006, 12:29 PM diane26
It wasn't docs I read Issac it was Doc's... Apr 28 2006, 12:48 PM Isaac_Putin
Diane, I'm not sure how any of what you said ... Apr 28 2006, 01:01 PM diane26
Issac I already talked about the selfish part of ... Apr 28 2006, 01:08 PM diane26
Jlynn I am sorry to hear about your grandfather,... Apr 28 2006, 01:30 AM diane26 I want to respond to it but havent had time to rea... Apr 27 2006, 03:11 AM diane26 Ok i just read the link real quick WOW somfan, wel... Apr 27 2006, 03:21 AM jlynn
I suppose I should've said it in one of the ... Apr 27 2006, 09:21 AM CrazyJoe131 There's an Italian tradition where, when someb... Apr 28 2006, 01:41 AM diane26
Im sorry to hear about that crazy joe. Apr 28 2006, 01:46 AM Gnappster I'm not gonna get into an argument about suici... Apr 28 2006, 12:48 PM diane26 :nahnah:
You are exactly correct.
That is all.... Apr 28 2006, 12:50 PM Gnappster focussing on it being a "selfish" act is... Apr 28 2006, 01:16 PM Isaac_Putin
gnappster, I believe that you have stated probabl... Apr 28 2006, 02:00 PM Gnappster
I never said it was a GOOD decision, but the int... Apr 28 2006, 03:57 PM Isaac_Putin
1. Wikipedia says the following about suicide am... Apr 28 2006, 10:39 PM diane26
It is not that easy to correct clinical depressio... Apr 28 2006, 10:44 PM Gnappster
OK, I didn't read the 5000 word essays since... Apr 29 2006, 10:51 AM diane26 Issac, to say it is selfish depends on what side o... Apr 28 2006, 04:19 PM Isaac_Putin
Diane, to be realistic, it would be helpful for ... Apr 28 2006, 10:55 PM diane26
Issac in that situation of the mother I would sa... Apr 28 2006, 11:08 PM Isaac_Putin
If you remember, I didn't start the discussi... Apr 28 2006, 11:28 PM diane26
Yes people have died from mental illness its ca... Apr 28 2006, 11:35 PM Isaac_Putin
Diane, I got the message. Please disregard my l... Apr 28 2006, 11:35 PM diane26
To late I responded already LOL but I just replie... Apr 28 2006, 11:38 PM diane26 Also that kind of logic is exactly what you are sa... Apr 28 2006, 11:10 PM somfan Knowing how easily and quickly one can take one... Apr 28 2006, 11:23 PM diane26
Been there done that not only have done researc... Apr 28 2006, 11:26 PM diane26 Issac
check your email. Apr 28 2006, 11:18 PM UncleBuck I wish you all (no I will not wish this on anyone)... Apr 28 2006, 11:46 PM diane26
My grandmother commited suicide it but a divider ... Apr 29 2006, 12:00 AM belicked6924
I know beating the dead horse (insert smilie here... May 2 2006, 10:56 PM
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