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diane26
post Apr 11 2006, 05:24 PM
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What do you think of legalizing prostitution??

I am for it, I know the tax issue would be a big deal cause most pay cash but if ran through the Brothel Houses like in Nevada that couls really keep an eye on things, and they are very clean and strict about things.

I have never understood how woman can go to jail for getting money for sex but she could sleep with someone for a gift card and that would be legal.
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post Apr 11 2006, 06:07 PM
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I have no problem with it being legalized either, I'm with Nat on this one, as long as it's a decision THE WOMAN is making........and why should they get it for free?! tongue.gif


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post Apr 11 2006, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(foxy lady @ Apr 11 2006, 06:07 PM)
I have no problem with it being legalized either, I'm with Nat on this one, as long as it's a decision THE WOMAN is making........and why should they get it for free?! tongue.gif
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Okay, I think, given the liberal nature of this site, that we'll have lots of the same answers and this thread may die pretty quick. What if you played devil's advocate and came up with arguments against it. Disease is pretty obvious. But do you think there'd be moral decay within society? Do you picture a woman ever having the respect of a husband or any man if they know she worked as a prostitute. It'd be a pretty difficult transition, I think, for society to make. also, would you want your daughter to aspire to be a prostitute or your son's or daughter's first time to be with a prostitute? Can you imagine if your first time how it would be differerent if it were in fact with someone you didn't know and paid? What if a girl really wanted to be a prostitute her whole life because her mom is and that's all she knows? Would you vote for a president who got through college by working as a prostitute? (male prostitute or female president, take your pick)

I'm not really sure if I'd be for or against it, really. I can think of great arguments on both sides of the issue. Just wanted to throw some of that out there.

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post Apr 12 2006, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(Bobaloo @ Apr 11 2006, 06:14 PM)
Okay,  I think, given the liberal nature of this site, that we'll have lots of the same answers and this thread may die pretty quick.  What if you played devil's advocate and came up with arguments against it.  Disease is pretty obvious.  But do you think there'd be moral decay within society?  Do you picture a woman ever having the respect of a husband or any man if they know she worked as a prostitute.  It'd be a pretty difficult transition, I think, for society to make. also, would you want your daughter to aspire to be a prostitute or your son's or daughter's first time to be with a prostitute?  Can you imagine if your first time how it would be differerent if it were in fact with someone you didn't know and paid?  What if a girl really wanted to be a prostitute her whole life because her mom is and that's all she knows?  Would you vote for a president who got through college by working as a prostitute?  (male prostitute or female president, take your pick)

I'm not really sure if I'd be for or against it, really.  I can think of great arguments on both sides of the issue.  Just wanted to throw some of that out there.
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Yes there is always a flipside to anything you're right and there are many issues that would be involved to make sure it was a clean and safe practice! As for wanting my son's first time to be with a prostitute, well I know his recent first has been used more than any prostitute out there and there is nothing one can do to stop that.

A prostitute for a politician .....well look at some of their sexual reputations as it is and IMO they would probably be more for the people! But than again, I don't like politics so what do I know nah.gif


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post Apr 12 2006, 03:48 PM
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I wouldn't oppose legalization of prostitution. Like many of you have already said, where's the logic in saying you can give it away for free, but you can't charge for it?

I'm actually a bit surprised that most of you seem to be focused on merely making sure that the process were regulated, however (clean, safe, etc.). I heard a great quote a couple of years ago in which a guy said, "It's not the responsibiliity of government to regulate the amount of risk I'm willing to take." This quote was in a different context, but is still applicable here.

I think it should simply be up to the prostitute and the john to decide between themselves what is safe, clean, etc. As long as they're two consenting adults, they should be able to decide about HIV tests, condoms, etc. After all, isn't the fact that they're consenting adults the essence of the argument to legalize prostitution in the first place?
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post Apr 12 2006, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(rackman @ Apr 12 2006, 12:48 PM)
I wouldn't oppose legalization of prostitution.  Like many of you have already said, where's the logic in saying you can give it away for free, but you can't charge for it?

I'm actually a bit surprised that most of you seem to be focused on merely making sure that the process were regulated, however (clean, safe, etc.).  I heard a great quote a couple of years ago in which a guy said, "It's not the responsibiliity of government to regulate the amount of risk I'm willing to take."   This quote was in a different context, but is still applicable here.

I think it should simply be up to the prostitute and the john to decide between themselves what is safe, clean, etc.  As long as they're two consenting adults, they should be able to decide about HIV tests, condoms, etc.  After all, isn't the fact that they're consenting adults the essence of the argument to legalize prostitution in the first place?
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My biggest concern would be safety, meaning cameras in the rooms and to do the Houses not just on the street. I think these other places that require the stuff is good and they run the places its up to them, I would say cleaning and stuff IE: New sheets and stuff like that should be regulated.

When you go to eat at a resteraunt you want to know you are eating in a clean safe enviroment,. At a hospital as well you want precatiouns taken washing of hands and so forth and so on.

So in a place were many bodily fluids are gonna be exchanged there should be regulations to ensure the safety of the next person, Condoms I can imagine to help prevent the spread of disease and unwanted pregnancies, but as far as further testing I would leave that up to whoever.
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post Apr 12 2006, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(diane26 @ Apr 12 2006, 04:22 PM)
My biggest concern would be safety....   ...New sheets and stuff like that should be regulated.

When you go to eat at a resteraunt you want to know you are eating in a clean safe enviroment,. At a hospital as well you want precatiouns taken washing of hands and so forth and so on.

So in a place were many bodily fluids are gonna be exchanged there should be regulations to ensure the safety of the next person, Condoms I can imagine to help prevent the spread of disease and unwanted pregnancies, but as far as further testing I would leave that up to whoever.
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Someone mentioned the "liberal nature of this site" a while back. The funny thing is that this topic is showing where liberal and conservative thinking converge.

The conservatives oppose prostitution because (in their opinion) it's morally wrong. They think they have the obligation (and authority) to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

Liberals may not oppose prostitution in principle, but they'd want to regulate it. Why? Because otherwise, people might get a disease or otherwise suffer negative consequences due to the choices they've made. In other words, they (like the conservatives) want to use the power of government to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

In either case, mature adults are being treated like children who cannot be left to their own devices lest they make bad choices in their lives.

Don't you think it's intellectually inconsistent to say that two people should be allowed to engage in prostitution because they're consenting adults and *simultaneously* treat them like children who are incapable of understanding the consequences of their actions and thus require that they follow government-mandated health and safety protocols?
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post Apr 12 2006, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(rackman @ Apr 12 2006, 04:18 PM)
Someone mentioned the "liberal nature of this site" a while back.  The funny thing is that this topic is showing where liberal and conservative thinking converge.

The conservatives oppose prostitution because (in their opinion) it's morally wrong.  They think they have the obligation (and authority) to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

Liberals may not oppose prostitution in principle, but they'd want to regulate it.  Why?  Because otherwise, people might get a disease or otherwise suffer negative consequences due to the choices they've made.  In other words, they (like the conservatives) want to use the power of government to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

In either case, mature adults are being treated like children who cannot be left to their own devices lest they make bad choices in their lives. 

Don't you think it's intellectually inconsistent to say that two people should be allowed to engage in prostitution because they're consenting adults and *simultaneously* treat them like children who are incapable of understanding the consequences of their actions and thus require that they follow government-mandated health and safety protocols?
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If it were to be legalized and treated as a job than regulations would be set in as jobs have.

Do you think it is wrong that people are required to wash there hands and wear gloves in a facility where cross cantamination can happen??

I am neither a liberal or a conversist or speller if you cant tell.

If I hook up with some and he leaves me some money I dont think I should be arrested. There were always be people out to cheat the system or not obide by the laws, but if they were to legalize it in a JOB FORM since the most important part of it all is Uncle Sam will want his half and like any other job there needs to be rules and regulations for the safty of the employers and customers.

Without Rules and Laws this world would be complete chaos more than it already is.

You already hear about Prostitutes getting murdered all the time, you don't here about it being girls working at the bunny house or for Hiedi Fliess it is the girls left on the streets or in the hands of pimps. As legal working citizens they would have rights just the same as someone else.
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diane26   So Another Hot Topic Since The Beach One Took Off   Apr 11 2006, 05:24 PM
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