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[diane26]

What do you think of legalizing prostitution??

I am for it, I know the tax issue would be a big deal cause most pay cash but if ran through the Brothel Houses like in Nevada that couls really keep an eye on things, and they are very clean and strict about things.

I have never understood how woman can go to jail for getting money for sex but she could sleep with someone for a gift card and that would be legal.

[natalie]

What do you think of legalizing prostitution??

I am for it, I know the tax issue would be a big deal cause most pay cash but if ran through the Brothel Houses like in Nevada that couls really keep an eye on things, and they are very clean and strict about things.

I have never understood how woman can go to jail for getting money for sex but she could sleep with someone for a gift card and that would be legal.

I agree with you Diane. I woman's body is hers to do what she will and as long as no one is forcing her or pressuring her than fine. Oh and as long as she is smart about it too. The funny thing is we have a panel of woman who were prostitutes at one time who became certified researchers. They did a lot of research on the issue and have been trying to legalize it every since. If anyone should know whether it would be a good idea it would be them.

[foxy lady]

I have no problem with it being legalized either, I'm with Nat on this one, as long as it's a decision THE WOMAN is making........and why should they get it for free?!

[Bobaloo]

I have no problem with it being legalized either, I'm with Nat on this one, as long as it's a decision THE WOMAN is making........and why should they get it for free?!

Okay, I think, given the liberal nature of this site, that we'll have lots of the same answers and this thread may die pretty quick. What if you played devil's advocate and came up with arguments against it. Disease is pretty obvious. But do you think there'd be moral decay within society? Do you picture a woman ever having the respect of a husband or any man if they know she worked as a prostitute. It'd be a pretty difficult transition, I think, for society to make. also, would you want your daughter to aspire to be a prostitute or your son's or daughter's first time to be with a prostitute? Can you imagine if your first time how it would be differerent if it were in fact with someone you didn't know and paid? What if a girl really wanted to be a prostitute her whole life because her mom is and that's all she knows? Would you vote for a president who got through college by working as a prostitute? (male prostitute or female president, take your pick)

I'm not really sure if I'd be for or against it, really. I can think of great arguments on both sides of the issue. Just wanted to throw some of that out there.

This post has been edited by Bobaloo: Apr 11 2006, 06:16 PM

[Gnappster]

Okay,  I think, given the liberal nature of this site, that we'll have lots of the same answers and this thread may die pretty quick.  What if you played devil's advocate and came up with arguments against it.  Disease is pretty obvious.  But do you think there'd be moral decay within society?  Do you picture a woman ever having the respect of a husband or any man if they know she worked as a prostitute.  It'd be a pretty difficult transition, I think, for society to make. also, would you want your daughter to aspire to be a prostitute or your son's or daughter's first time to be with a prostitute?  Can you imagine if your first time how it would be differerent if it were in fact with someone you didn't know and paid?  What if a girl really wanted to be a prostitute her whole life because her mom is and that's all she knows?  Would you vote for a president who got through college by working as a prostitute?  (male prostitute or female president, take your pick)

I'm not really sure if I'd be for or against it, really.  I can think of great arguments on both sides of the issue.  Just wanted to throw some of that out there.

I also wouldn't want them to be a lawyer or politician either, but that's legal lol.

[Isaac_Putin]

What do you think of legalizing prostitution??

I am for it, I know the tax issue would be a big deal cause most pay cash but if ran through the Brothel Houses like in Nevada that couls really keep an eye on things, and they are very clean and strict about things.

I have never understood how woman can go to jail for getting money for sex but she could sleep with someone for a gift card and that would be legal.

Two reasons against it:

1. It would make it more difficult to combat child prostitution.

2. It would be difficult to determine who was being coerced or forced into prostitution, also.

[Gnappster]

I just reread diane's post....so if I pay a hooker with a gift card it's legal? I wish I would have known that sooner!

[Bobaloo]

I also wouldn't want them to be a lawyer or politician either, but that's legal lol.

that would be so funny if it weren't true. I know there's a homer quote for this, I'm just too lazy to look for it.

I guess, though, if a person has the desire to whore themselves out for money, I suppose politician or lawyer would be a good career to look into.

[Gnappster]

that would be so funny if it weren't true.  I know there's a homer quote for this, I'm just too lazy to look for it.

I guess, though, if a person has the desire to whore themselves out for money, I suppose politician or lawyer would be a good career to look into.

well there is an appropriate lionel hutz quote:
"If there's one thing America needs, it's more lawyers.
Can you imagine a world without lawyers? *shudders*"

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[diane26]

I would be for it in the Form of the Prositition Houses, I watched a show last night about it and you would be suprised how well the Prostitiution houses are ran, There is one Cowboy something in nevada, and the ladies are given STD Checks weekly and Aids tests monthly, Condoms HAVE to be used there are cameras in the rooms and the rooms must be kepts clean, Morally a woman would be looked down on but no differant than a stripper, you know when you are going into that field the shit you will get. I probably would not be for it for street walking but ran in a place like the Cowboy place and the Bunny Ranch and stuff in nevada I would fully support it.

[Bobaloo]

I just reread diane's post....so if I pay a hooker with a gift card it's legal? I wish I would have known that sooner!

Hmmm. I wonder if we could just swipe it then and there??

[Bobaloo]

well there is an appropriate lionel hutz quote:
"If there's one thing America needs, it's more lawyers.        
Can you imagine a world without lawyers? *shudders*"

Classic. you're good

[diane26]

Hmmm.  I wonder if we could just swipe it then and there??

Make it just a visa Gift Card so I cant shop anywhere. Thanks:D

[Bobaloo]

I would be for it in the Form of the Prositition Houses, I watched a show last night about it and you would be suprised how well the Prostitiution houses are ran, There is one Cowboy something in nevada, and the ladies are given STD Checks weekly and Aids tests monthly, Condoms HAVE to be used there are cameras in the rooms and the rooms must be kepts clean, Morally a woman would be looked down on but no differant than a stripper, you know when you are going into that field the shit you will get. I probably would not be for it for street walking but ran in a place like the Cowboy place and the Bunny Ranch and stuff in nevada I would fully support it.

Well, what about the fact that HIV incubates for about 6 months before it's detectable? If a girl is applying for a job at the bunny ranch, do they just have her keep the place clean for six months? What if she has a boyfriend or wants to do some sidejobs outside the scope of the camera? I know there's lots of jobs with other hazards and stuff. I'm just throwing this stuff out there.

[diane26]

Well, what about the fact that HIV incubates for about 6 months before it's detectable?  If a girl is applying for a job at the bunny ranch, do they just have her keep the place clean for six months?  What if she has a boyfriend or wants to do some sidejobs outside the scope of the camera?  I know there's lots of jobs with other hazards and stuff.  I'm just throwing this stuff out there.

Well same could be applied period, they have to use condoms and there is no sure fire protection except to abstain and every person will have to know that so allthough they take steps to try and prevent things, there will never be a guarntee, I am going into nursing and there is no guarntee someone I have to work on won't have aids and I wont get stuck and so forth and so on.

Nothing can be guarnteed and the best we can do is try and protect ourselves. I think having these houses would be so much better than the street walkers that are getting raped and killed and this and that, in one of these places they will have protection they won't have alone on the streets or working for a pimp.

[Bobaloo]

Well same could be applied period, they have to use condoms and there is no sure fire protection except to abstain and every person will have to know that so allthough they take steps to try and prevent things, there will never be a guarntee, I am going into nursing and there is no guarntee someone I have to work on won't have aids and I wont get stuck and so forth and so on.

Nothing can be guarnteed and the best we can do is try and protect ourselves. I think having these houses would be so much better than the street walkers that are getting raped and killed and this and that, in one of these places they will have protection they won't have alone on the streets or working for a pimp.

All good points!!!

Do you think this could all be attained and still be affordable?? I don't picture it being major competition for streetwalkers.

[Gnappster]

All good points!!! 

Do you think this could all be attained and still be affordable??  I don't picture it being major competition for streetwalkers.

Not sure but I bet it would still be cheaper than a date!

[Bobaloo]

Not sure but I bet it would still be cheaper than a date!

Hello!! I just mentioned my date in my previous post. Hence streetwalkers!!! oh, I mean, um, well, you know. vote quimby

[diane26]

All good points!!! 

Do you think this could all be attained and still be affordable??  I don't picture it being major competition for streetwalkers.

Well it would be know 20 dollars a hit allthough i don't know the going rate for sex LOL Costs my husband a lot.


But anyway from what I understand is the ladies make there own price and they house gets a percantage for providing the rooms security and all that much like a strip club, I am sure you would have nicer places than others to suit differant price ranges but as long as the standards are the same than it should all be good, I doubt security would be hard to find, and cameras would be a must and stuff but you get what you pay for so you can go to the run down hoe house in MLK Blvd.. **somfan should know the great area that is** lol or you can have the high roller one in Beverly Hills.


But I would surely be for these, not for me but I will never understand how anyone has the right to mandate who and why a person has sex is consenting and legal age.

[Gnappster]

Hello!!  I just mentioned my date in my previous post.  Hence streetwalkers!!!  oh, I mean, um, well, you know.  vote quimby

It's cool. Just make sure your "date" isn't a cop. That was a night I won't soon forget.

[diane26]

It's cool. Just make sure your "date" isn't a cop. That was a night I won't soon forget.

I think I have missed a few posts in here better look back

[Bobaloo]

I think I have missed a few posts in here better look back

Ah, I was just board whorin' around. you didn't miss much.

Speaking of board whorin', think they'll legalize that and give us a place to hang out with clean rooms and video cameras and stuff??

[diane26]

Ah, I was just board whorin' around.  you didn't miss much.

Speaking of board whorin', think they'll legalize that and give us a place to hang out with clean rooms and video cameras and stuff??

We could hope!!

Be back later maybe Adios mi Amigos.

[foxy lady]

Okay,  I think, given the liberal nature of this site, that we'll have lots of the same answers and this thread may die pretty quick.  What if you played devil's advocate and came up with arguments against it.  Disease is pretty obvious.  But do you think there'd be moral decay within society?  Do you picture a woman ever having the respect of a husband or any man if they know she worked as a prostitute.  It'd be a pretty difficult transition, I think, for society to make. also, would you want your daughter to aspire to be a prostitute or your son's or daughter's first time to be with a prostitute?  Can you imagine if your first time how it would be differerent if it were in fact with someone you didn't know and paid?  What if a girl really wanted to be a prostitute her whole life because her mom is and that's all she knows?  Would you vote for a president who got through college by working as a prostitute?  (male prostitute or female president, take your pick)

I'm not really sure if I'd be for or against it, really.  I can think of great arguments on both sides of the issue.  Just wanted to throw some of that out there.

Yes there is always a flipside to anything you're right and there are many issues that would be involved to make sure it was a clean and safe practice! As for wanting my son's first time to be with a prostitute, well I know his recent first has been used more than any prostitute out there and there is nothing one can do to stop that.

A prostitute for a politician .....well look at some of their sexual reputations as it is and IMO they would probably be more for the people! But than again, I don't like politics so what do I know

[rackman]

I wouldn't oppose legalization of prostitution. Like many of you have already said, where's the logic in saying you can give it away for free, but you can't charge for it?

I'm actually a bit surprised that most of you seem to be focused on merely making sure that the process were regulated, however (clean, safe, etc.). I heard a great quote a couple of years ago in which a guy said, "It's not the responsibiliity of government to regulate the amount of risk I'm willing to take." This quote was in a different context, but is still applicable here.

I think it should simply be up to the prostitute and the john to decide between themselves what is safe, clean, etc. As long as they're two consenting adults, they should be able to decide about HIV tests, condoms, etc. After all, isn't the fact that they're consenting adults the essence of the argument to legalize prostitution in the first place?

[diane26]

I wouldn't oppose legalization of prostitution.  Like many of you have already said, where's the logic in saying you can give it away for free, but you can't charge for it?

I'm actually a bit surprised that most of you seem to be focused on merely making sure that the process were regulated, however (clean, safe, etc.).  I heard a great quote a couple of years ago in which a guy said, "It's not the responsibiliity of government to regulate the amount of risk I'm willing to take."   This quote was in a different context, but is still applicable here.

I think it should simply be up to the prostitute and the john to decide between themselves what is safe, clean, etc.  As long as they're two consenting adults, they should be able to decide about HIV tests, condoms, etc.  After all, isn't the fact that they're consenting adults the essence of the argument to legalize prostitution in the first place?

My biggest concern would be safety, meaning cameras in the rooms and to do the Houses not just on the street. I think these other places that require the stuff is good and they run the places its up to them, I would say cleaning and stuff IE: New sheets and stuff like that should be regulated.

When you go to eat at a resteraunt you want to know you are eating in a clean safe enviroment,. At a hospital as well you want precatiouns taken washing of hands and so forth and so on.

So in a place were many bodily fluids are gonna be exchanged there should be regulations to ensure the safety of the next person, Condoms I can imagine to help prevent the spread of disease and unwanted pregnancies, but as far as further testing I would leave that up to whoever.

[rackman]

My biggest concern would be safety....   ...New sheets and stuff like that should be regulated.

When you go to eat at a resteraunt you want to know you are eating in a clean safe enviroment,. At a hospital as well you want precatiouns taken washing of hands and so forth and so on.

So in a place were many bodily fluids are gonna be exchanged there should be regulations to ensure the safety of the next person, Condoms I can imagine to help prevent the spread of disease and unwanted pregnancies, but as far as further testing I would leave that up to whoever.

Someone mentioned the "liberal nature of this site" a while back. The funny thing is that this topic is showing where liberal and conservative thinking converge.

The conservatives oppose prostitution because (in their opinion) it's morally wrong. They think they have the obligation (and authority) to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

Liberals may not oppose prostitution in principle, but they'd want to regulate it. Why? Because otherwise, people might get a disease or otherwise suffer negative consequences due to the choices they've made. In other words, they (like the conservatives) want to use the power of government to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

In either case, mature adults are being treated like children who cannot be left to their own devices lest they make bad choices in their lives.

Don't you think it's intellectually inconsistent to say that two people should be allowed to engage in prostitution because they're consenting adults and *simultaneously* treat them like children who are incapable of understanding the consequences of their actions and thus require that they follow government-mandated health and safety protocols?

[diane26]

Someone mentioned the "liberal nature of this site" a while back.  The funny thing is that this topic is showing where liberal and conservative thinking converge.

The conservatives oppose prostitution because (in their opinion) it's morally wrong.  They think they have the obligation (and authority) to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

Liberals may not oppose prostitution in principle, but they'd want to regulate it.  Why?  Because otherwise, people might get a disease or otherwise suffer negative consequences due to the choices they've made.  In other words, they (like the conservatives) want to use the power of government to prevent people from engaging in stupid behavior.

In either case, mature adults are being treated like children who cannot be left to their own devices lest they make bad choices in their lives. 

Don't you think it's intellectually inconsistent to say that two people should be allowed to engage in prostitution because they're consenting adults and *simultaneously* treat them like children who are incapable of understanding the consequences of their actions and thus require that they follow government-mandated health and safety protocols?

If it were to be legalized and treated as a job than regulations would be set in as jobs have.

Do you think it is wrong that people are required to wash there hands and wear gloves in a facility where cross cantamination can happen??

I am neither a liberal or a conversist or speller if you cant tell.

If I hook up with some and he leaves me some money I dont think I should be arrested. There were always be people out to cheat the system or not obide by the laws, but if they were to legalize it in a JOB FORM since the most important part of it all is Uncle Sam will want his half and like any other job there needs to be rules and regulations for the safty of the employers and customers.

Without Rules and Laws this world would be complete chaos more than it already is.

You already hear about Prostitutes getting murdered all the time, you don't here about it being girls working at the bunny house or for Hiedi Fliess it is the girls left on the streets or in the hands of pimps. As legal working citizens they would have rights just the same as someone else.

[Bobaloo]

If it were to be legalized and treated as a job than regulations would be set in as jobs have.

Do you think it is wrong that people are required to wash there hands and wear gloves in a facility where cross cantamination can happen??

I am neither a liberal or a conversist or speller if you cant tell.

If I hook up with some and he leaves me some money I dont think I should be arrested. There were always be people out to cheat the system or not obide by the laws, but if they were to legalize it in a JOB FORM since the most important part of it all is Uncle Sam will want his half and like any other job there needs to be rules and regulations for the safty of the employers and customers.

Without Rules and Laws this world would be complete chaos more than it already is.

You already hear about Prostitutes getting murdered all the time, you don't here about it being girls working at the bunny house or for Hiedi Fliess it is the girls left on the streets or in the hands of pimps. As legal working citizens they would have rights just the same as someone else.

I'm with diane on this one. you can't leave society's fate up to individuals in that soceity. Chaos would ensue. The restaurant is a great example. i know there's a risk that if I eat at a restaurant I may get food poisening, but regulations and laws lessen that risk. without those rules and regulations, no company would take steps for customer safety or well-being if it had a negative effect on the bottom line. Legalization would open the door to regulation and at least start closing the door on the negative aspects of the current system. That is not to say that all immoral acts or things or jobs or whatever should be legalized just to impose regulations for the sake of controlling the immorality. I'm not even really sure if I think prostitution should be legalized. I'm just saying that legalizing could be a means to address a problem and spread understanding and knowledge about that problem.

actually, I don't know what the hell I'm saying. I'm going to go back to one of the threads that has some boobs in it.

[diane26]

I'm with diane on this one.  you can't leave society's fate up to individuals in that soceity.  Chaos would ensue.  The restaurant is a great example.  i know there's a risk that if I eat at a restaurant I may get food poisening, but regulations and laws lessen that risk.  without those rules and regulations, no company would take steps for customer safety or well-being if it had a negative effect on the bottom line.  Legalization would open the door to regulation and at least start closing the door on the negative aspects of the current system.  That is not to say that all immoral acts or things or jobs or whatever should be legalized just to impose regulations for the sake of controlling the immorality.  I'm not even really sure if I think prostitution should be legalized.  I'm just saying that legalizing could be a means to address a problem and spread understanding and knowledge about that problem. 

actually, I don't know what the hell I'm saying.  I'm going to go back to one of the threads that has some boobs in it.

I love these kinds of threads.